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Newest Code Breaker Contest (By Nod2003)

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 Posted 09/17/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Is this a polyalphabetic substitution cipher?
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 Posted 09/17/2012  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Simpler then that
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 Posted 09/17/2012  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Balloons are really cool. So are coins!
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 Posted 09/17/2012  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
What is the length of the key? 3?

Is every letter in the code needed to decode it?
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Method of decryption:

1. Nod told us early on that there were 7 words, the shortest was two letters and "cones aren't that important". I took that to mean the cones in your eyes (that detect color) weren't as important as the rods (that detect grayscale - sort of). But the color coding did highlight one thing: The lines with the single color coded character added all had an odd number of triplets. Nod was making the number of characters in all lines divisible by two on purpose.

2. The hints about pairs made it obvious that a pair of letters would decode to a single letter when you consider there were a total of 48 pairs and only 31 letters in the answer. After learning that line 1 contained 8 characters and the shortest word was two characters and there was on word per line, there had to be a letter or combination that could be eliminated. The letter T appeared in 17 pairs and conveniently made line one 8 pairs and line 5 two pairs.

3. I converted the pairs into single characters to make decoding easier. I quickly observed that line 2 and line 6 were identical! Line 5 was only 2 characters, so I was trying to make the three character words "and" or "the" or "are" or "our", but nothing worked. Then I started to look at polyalphabetic substitution with a key length of 3 since there was a 15 character spread between the identical words on lines 2 and 6. But then Nod indicated it was a simple substitution and provided a fixed letter. That not only nailed down line 5 (what other two letter word starts with S?) but gave a BIG clue to lines 2 and 6. The word "are" made the most sense so I started there. That left line 3 as REA*** which had to be REALLY, but that made line 4 *OLL. I kept going anyway and immediately saw that line 7 was COINS. That left line one as *ALLOLNS. Then I realized that PS could be "L" or "O" and it fell into place.

First, put all code into pairs. Delete all pairs with the letter T. Then replace:

PA = B
PP = A
GK = L
PS = L or O (it's L, then O, then L, then O)
GS = O
GR = N
BA = S
BP = R
PE = E
PG = Y
PC = C
GP = I
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09/17/2012 1:07 pm
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
darn Lars! I think another hour and I had it. I had just started putting together a list, so far it says "PP = A", lol. Well done! Enjoy your coin!
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Therefore:

PA PP GK PS GS PS GR BA
PP BP PE
BP PE PP GK PS PG
PC GS PS GK
BA GS
PP BP PE
PC GS GP GR BA

becomes:

BALLOONS
ARE
REALLY
COOL
SO
ARE
COINS

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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list

Quote:
darn Lars! I think another hour and I had it. I had just started putting together a list, so far it says "PP = A", lol. Well done! Enjoy your coin!


That S really helped. Those 3 letter words could only be four or five words to make any sense and when we found out that the two letter word started with S, that decoded 3 words almost immediately and forced word 3 to be REALLY.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
This time, please just give me until Wednsday and then Ill post MY contest. Ok?
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
I will need until Wednesday to decompress from this one! I really worked on this one. I knew there were a lot of folks working on it, too, but there is a hole in my Type Set album that is just WAITING for this coin!

Newest-Code-Breaker-Contest-By-Nod2003

I give most winnings away in my contests, but this one is a keeper!



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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Yay, lars got it.

My encoding method was as follows:

I based it on a base 9 numbering system, 1-9. 11 was the minimum and corresponded to the letter G. Since there are only 26 letters, I used the 27th letter as the second of any double letters, for words like cool, really, etc. I then disguised the numbers using my favorite football team as a key. GBPACKERS. To make things a bit more tricky, I then added the letter T and any pair with a T in it was a blank. I then did as lars described with the colors.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
Oh, I get it! I thought PS alternated between L and O but it was really a "ditto" to the previous letter. Clever! I'm glad you only doubled the O's and L's or I may still be
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 Posted 09/17/2012  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LTMets44 to your friends list
nod2003 - Very Clever!
larsdog - What can I say? True Genius!

Although I can never figure these out, they are truly fun to follow.

Thanks guys
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 Posted 09/17/2012  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
Insult to injury, the key was my favorite football team too!

Looking forward to yours tzar... take it easy on us, these are starting to be quite time consuming!
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 Posted 09/18/2012  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list
I agree with jg86. I chased down a LOT of blind alleys on this one, but the prize fits in a hole in my Type Set collection. Looking forward to see what you have tzar!

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