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Pillar of the Community
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I sent a Message to MolyDeii, hopefully he can chime in soon.
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It's a gold 25 kurush, all right, but KM# 752, with "reshat" to right. NGC page. The regnal year on yours is on the obverse, below the toughra: "2". So your coin is dated 1327//2, which translates to AH 1328, or AD 1910. Unfortunately, given the circular damage pattern (most visible in the stars on the obverse), I'd say this one is ex-jewellery; it was once mounted in a bezel that damaged it. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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United States
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Yeaa, I knew it was likely damaged from something like that.
I got it for melt, so it was an acceptable risk. Thanks for the info Sap!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The translation of the reverse is "Was struck in Constantinople" 1327.
Yes I'm serious that's what it says. This is a common inscription form. The upper part says "was struck in" and the bottom word is the mint name. In this case Constantinople.
Edited by Conder101
09/26/2012 11:00 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople, why did Constantinople get the works?"
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hmmm, size and weight are a bit too low, should be 15mm and about 0.6 ozt. Also, some details are wrong or too crude compared to other examples of this exact type and year.
I would be suspicious of it based on the dimensions and appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hmmm. Krause lists the wieght as being 0.0532 which my scale puts it at 0.05.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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And a 15mm coin that is 0.6 ounces? That's a fat coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Mexico
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Don't forget the density of its composition. (and you are missing a zero 0.06 not 0.6 oz)
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Sorry I meant 0.06, not 0.6. But there are flaws on this coin that are just too major to ignore.
Most notably, look at the ribbon at the bottom of the wreath on the date side of the coin. The stems are overlapped by the ribbon ends. On genuine coins it is the opposite, the ribbons are behind the stems. This is a counterfeiter's mistake.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmm I suppose its possible, do you have a good picture of a genuine example showing this?
Seems odd to counterfeit a piece worth about melt. Though it would make sense given its an ex jewelry piece. If it was made for jewelry I could see it being counterfeit.
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Pillar of the Community
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Here's a good clear picture, click on it to enlarge it a bit: http://www.inumis.com/turquie/turqu...1205748.htmlYea it's a pretty common practice to make facsimiles of gold coins out of gold for jewelry purposes. Have seen it with European coins like the British sovereign too. Edited by Numismat
09/27/2012 5:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yea. That is a very good representation of your point. Looking at it too, there are other areas that seem wrong. Still not sure though. Different Dies? Probably just jewelry counterfeit though.   Edited by Namachieli
09/27/2012 5:36 pm
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Australia
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Yep, seeing the two clear pictures side by side, I'd agree yours is most likely a jewellery copy. Middle-eastern jewellery copies are often made of fine gold that's near enough to the fineness of the genuine coins.
I mentioned earlier this coin was "ex-mount". Looks like it was made to go into that mount in the first place.
Still, it's worth melt.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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So I went back to the dealer I bought it from. I explained the situation and he refunded it.
good thing too. He tested it with an XRF gun, came up 71% gold.
Thanks everyone for the help and input.
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