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Bedrock of the Community
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Theyres no real way to tell what's going to be worth more in the future. Mintage isn't everything. Some of it is the quality that survives and other is demand. The buffalo commemorative is by no means rare but commands a high premium because everyone including non commemorative collectors want one. Even with the valuable coins they'll be ups and downs where prices will have highs and lows. The economy will play a factor too for how much people have to spend on collectables. Theyres just to many things that go into it.
At the very least though you'll at least have the silver value even if the coins don't bring a premium. If you like them keep getting them. If you are just hoping to make money they're better investments out there or cheaper bullion you can get.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think the safest way to collect these is by not paying a premium over spot.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So far I have the entire series through last year. I have laid off buying the 2012 coins only because I felt that the price at the time was to far over the price of silver. However, the more I looked at the normal size quarters the more I liked them.
I feel that if I continue to purchase the 5 ounce coins I will run into a storage problem. This doesn't even address the question of what it will cost me if I stay the course and get the entire series. I have a feeling that by the time the final five ounce coins are minted in is going to be very costly, and the entire series will have cost a small fortune.
I feel that the 2012 coins so far the best looking coins of the series, so I am going to order mine soon. I hope that the mint will not run out of coins before I get mine.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ive got the first 5 and Washington state (cause I live here) I dont make en effort to pick them up, but when I find the Collector version for spot + ASE premium. I snag it. I got the Washington collector version for Spot+$5 /ozt. Couldn't resist. I really enjoy the designs in this series, and these coins really capture the design in a gorgeous way. Still say they should have marked them at $5 face, instead of $0.25.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I have a feeling that by the time the final five ounce coins are minted in is going to be very costly, and the entire series will have cost a small fortune.
At 205 a coin the whole series will be over 10k
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Quote: At 205 a coin the whole series will be over 10k
They probably won't be $205 much longer either
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1770 Posts |
i purchase them because I love them plain and simple
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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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I bought couple when the silver was cheaper. Liked the design but did not buy more. There are a lot of other coins which I liked and could get at cheaper price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Buy them if you like them, pure and simple. Nobody knows if these are going to big winners or not. If the series goes for $205 each, the series will cost over $10K, but the $205 pricing is not likely to hold over 42 more issues. Yes, 42, if that number is daunting, best stay away from these "coins." These are not good speculative investments, IMO.
Edited by Bizybackson 09/25/2012 7:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hate the rez a thread almost a year old but with the price of ATB 5oz now at $140, compared to the $205 the OP paid, I think the original question still remains if this bullion coin will hold any potential numismatic value? I like the designs for the 5 oz, but I have been wondering if it is worth the investment anymore than any other silver bullion (ie buffalo, eagle, rounds, etc). Don't flame for the rez, the OP's question is still relevant today and the same question I signed up to ask on these forums. Is ATB 5oz a decent investment? 30-50k mint doesn't seem very high of a mintage..
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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These coins have beautiful designs and presentation to help with the marketing. I guess that would also apply in the secondary market, should you need to sell them later on.
It's nice to know that they have a backup bullion value, so at least you should have some idea of what you can sell them for, should the need arise.
They have obviously been presented so that the owner would consider keeping them for the long term, rather than trade them. However, their value in the future would be largely determined by the spot silver price, which can also have long term volatility.
Nevertheless, the decision to buy now is mainly a decision of the heart, (there is lots of other silver products offered), so that may mean there is some numismatic value to be had in the future, though in relative terms, I suspect not much.
Edited by sel_69l 07/24/2013 7:51 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I think the safest way to collect these is by not paying a premium over spot. Good point.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The 5oz ATB pucks are moderately popular and tend to sell well in both forms, the bullion coin, and the Uncirculated (P) version coin. While the proof-like bullion coins are nice, I prefer the vapor blasted P-version myself. My predictions are that the bullion versions will carry a slight premium over spot, while the Uncirculated (P) versions will mild to wild premium depending on the coin. For example, the 2012 P ATB Hawaii Volcano coin in OGP is selling for $550-650, while its siblings minted in 2012 are selling for less than $350. Out of the 3 produced this year so far, the Perry's Victory is my least favorite. And I am not a fan of the Mount Rushmore either. I think these 5oz are worth collecting and the mint has created a niche for these 5oz'ers with bullion and/or uncirculated coin collectors. I'd like to see the Mint produce a .999 Fine Silver coin weighing a kilo.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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The Perth Mint has been producing .9999 1 kilo silver coins for quite some years. Quite a variety of them: proof, reverse proof, colourised, and even genuine diamond studded eyes on Australian native animal images. They are quite popular with Chinese buyers.
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