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 Posted 11/17/2012  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Certainly not janky silver there, nice gift from a great GP....

Sunken Spanish silver bar perhaps, couple of hundred plus years old probably....
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 Posted 11/17/2012  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list
absolutely outstanding thank you for posting the bar

I agree with trout about collectible bars.
But this one is definitely an exception. I remember as a young man all of the excitement surrounding Mel Fisher's
finding of "The Atocha" in 1985. it was a very cool find.
And if you are ever in Florida along the Gold Coast near
Vero or in the Keys it is definitely worth the time to stop by one of his Museum's
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 Posted 11/17/2012  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thatstuffisjanky to your friends list
deng when this bar was salvage from the document lol I wasnt even born yet lol :O
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 Posted 11/17/2012  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list
Nice!
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 Posted 11/17/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add argentum to your friends list
Now that bar gives coins a run for their money!
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 Posted 11/17/2012  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list
is that a real atocha silver bar or a replica? I've seen these and the coin is real but the bar is a replica of what an actual one is
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 Posted 11/17/2012  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thatstuffisjanky to your friends list
^ that is correct it was a large bar that was melted down to make smaller bars each bar was number this was # 1047/1445... its still the silver that was salvage from the shipwreck just not the orginal, still cool for display :)

from doin a lil research the orginal bars from past auctions have sold for around $45,000-50k bucks :O depending on the grade of the bar
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 Posted 11/17/2012  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
I once had one of these below in real nice shape, but not as nice as this example below. Mine went for like 220 on running auction, perhaps the most I have ever made on a piece with less then one oz. of silver....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1781-8-REAL...em2324e5afa0

I don't have time to try and find the original copy and paste on the wreck history and the vessel and captain which found it, but I do know Spain lost this huge amount of these coins off the coast of Florida perhaps, and it lead to Spain being in such bad shape, that they sold the Lousianna territory to France, who of course in turned sold it to the United States....

I found it interesting that one wreck could change the shape of a nation. We probably would have ended up with it eventually anyhow via geographical loaction, but still a very cool piece of history. As is that way cool bar, original or not.....
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11/17/2012 2:37 pm
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 Posted 11/17/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thatstuffisjanky to your friends list
wasnt this one of the first early dollar coins for US? I'm not to sure I remember seeing this coin in one of those plaque in my local coin shop never paid much attention to it except the title... now I'm getting really intrested in these types of shipwreck coins! gotta do more research!
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 Posted 11/17/2012  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Lovely bar! And that is an odd thing - a caduceus dagger!
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 Posted 11/17/2012  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
Very Cool Bar
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 Posted 11/17/2012  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
That is way cool.

and now some nagging in my old lady voice

Be sure to send your grandfather a nice handwritten thank you note. I am sure you thanked him in person, but a handwritten note is in order here. Just tell him how exciting it was to learn about the bar and the coin and their history. He'll appreciate it.



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 Posted 11/17/2012  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Wow - great piece of history

Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 11/17/2012  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Here we go, since it is on a similar theme and I didn't have all the facts last post right before I had to leave for work....

https://goccf.com/t/115167
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 Posted 11/18/2012  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list
Very cool bar! Nice showpiece. And on a side note....I think its great having a collection of bars.
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11/18/2012 10:07 pm
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