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Pillar of the Community
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
I believe that it is Die Deterioration.
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list
Trailing die marks
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
By the way...
to CCF!
Don't get discouraged; you can go many weeks between major finds, even if you search extensively. Don't give up! And when you do come across something, please share; we love to share in your finds!
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 Posted 11/20/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big al to your friends list
No I quit, I'm gonna collect Barbie Dolls or something...:)
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 Posted 11/21/2012  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
It is Die Deterioration Doubling, typically seen on Very Late Die State(VLDS) coins. The lines are radial flow lines that formed on the die over time as each planchet struck slowly eroded the die in a radial fashion. In a much earlier die state and on a microscopic level, those same flow lines are responsible for the cartwheel luster of an uncirculated coin.
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 Posted 11/21/2012  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list

Quote:
you can go many weeks between major finds


One can go months between minor finds
and decades between major ones.
And that is only if you are at it most of the time.
Gotta have patience and perseverance.

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 Posted 11/21/2012  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big al to your friends list
thanks all, I am learning a lot. Can anyone post a pic of "cartwheel luster" so I can see what it looks like?
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 Posted 11/22/2012  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
I would keep that one. Never seen Die Deterioration that looked like that before.
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 Posted 11/22/2012  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list
Jayman931:I've seen this a lot on the early State Quarters.I don't know about later dates because I stopped looking.
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 Posted 11/22/2012  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big al to your friends list
@Jay...That's what I'm sayin' Brother!....I am new but I still cant accept the deterioration prognosis here. Is there a way I can contact you on Friday? I can not use the Forum messenger yet since I am a new member. Thanks Big Al
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 Posted 11/22/2012  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add big al to your friends list
FYI to all who have helped...The coin pictured is NOT a State Quarter..it is 1993...Are we still calling that doubling: Die Deterioration?...Look at the doubling again please! Maybe knowing the year 1993 helps the diagnosis?
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 Posted 11/22/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
I agree this is Die Deterioration. Also, this happens on all coins so it doesn't matter what the date or denomination is. It is just that some compositions (such as in nickels) and in some years it is more common.

Keep the coin for future reference and don't be discouraged. If they were easy to find then they wouldn't have a premium.
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11/22/2012 3:16 pm
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 Posted 11/22/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chzman to your friends list
MD for sure. I believe that I shared this link with you before. If you study the different forms of hub doubling (desired doubling) it will get easier to spot this Mechanical Doubling that people do not collect or want to pay money for. I have seen thousands of coins that look just like your example here, they go right back to the bank, they are not rare.

http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...Doubling.htm
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 Posted 11/27/2012  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list

Quote:
Are we still calling that doubling: Die Deterioration?...


Yes, it is still deterioration...sorry
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 Posted 11/27/2012  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Die Deterioration is Die Deterioration, regardless of the date or coin type.

As for cartwheel luster, it is a bit difficult to capture in a photo since motion is an integral part of seeing it. Take any uncirculated large silver coin(half dollar or dollar) and rotate/oscillate it under good light, you will see the reflected light playing off the surface- that is cartwheel luster.
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