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Code Breaker Contest #17

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 Posted 11/30/2012  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list

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The encoded category is horizontal. Any way of using this to solve the puzzle?



ONE of the encoded categories is horizontal. (See Official Hints # 1 and 4)
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11/30/2012 6:18 pm
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 Posted 11/30/2012  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
Ok, for the second time.

Here aer the categories:
H - Horizontal
V - Vertical
B - Both
N - Neither

I got that part. What now?!
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 Posted 11/30/2012  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
I think I hinted at this before, but v1, w1, and y1 are the one letter words and they are quite similar. Try v1 = w1, v1 = y1, w1 = y1, or v1 = w1 = y1 (one of these must be true) and see where it gets you. Try it where each of those is A, and where each of those is I.
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 Posted 11/30/2012  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
Ok, I did that and have formed my idea on which one is the a and which is the i. There are a few more combos that have a 1 (C1, D1 etc.) Am I correct to assume that these equal a or I as well?
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
Which one is the A and which is the I, and why?
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John Paul to your friends list
"Liberty will not descend to a people a people must raise themselves to liberty it is a blessing that must be earned before it can be enjoyed"

-Charles Caleb Colton


I think you made an error in using H2 for the "C" in Charles.

I picked up early on that there were four groups of letters, and that V1=W1=X1=Y1=Z1, but without the hints I don't know that I would have realized how to assign letters to the four groups. I worked on this the first night, then came back to see the answer - got lucky to solve it 2nd.


Thanks for the contest!

John Paul
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
And this, my friends, is why I have abstained for these contests for a long time before this. Oh well. Good job John and I hope you have fun with your prize (if there is one) .
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
And this, my friends, is why I have abstained for these contests for a long time before this. Oh well. Good job John and I hope you have fun with your prize (if there is one) .
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
Well done John Paul!
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 Posted 12/01/2012  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list

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"Liberty will not descend to a people a people must raise themselves to liberty it is a blessing that must be earned before it can be enjoyed"

-Charles Caleb Colton




JohnPaul! WINNER!





Well done!


(And you are correct: somehow the H2 snuck through (Instead of I2)!! Dang it!!
Edited by Moe145
12/01/2012 09:48 am
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 Posted 12/01/2012  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
And as you all have figured out, the code grouped letters by their appearance.

V letters have vertical symmetry: A,M,U,V,W,T AND Y

H letters have horizontal symmetry: B,C,D,E,K

B letters have BOTH vertical and horizontal symmetry: H,I,O,X

N letter have NO symmetry: F,G,J,L,N,P,Q,R,S,Z

The letters were then assigned numbers by their place in the assigned groups: The letter B = H1 (Horizontal symmetry, 1st letter of that type in the alphabet). I , of course, couldn't just have a simple substitute cipher so the H letters had one of the next 5 letters in the alphabet (after H) assigned to it in order through the code. So, B could be I1,J1,K1,L1 OR M1.

And the rest they say is history!!

Nice work on this JohnPaul and jg86! Tzarmarko, you get long-term Brownie Points for working at this so hard!!
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12/01/2012 09:59 am
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 Posted 12/01/2012  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
Brownie points! Thanks for the contest!
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 Posted 12/01/2012  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ECS to your friends list
Damn, I was on the right track but I didn't think of the both category. Well done to those who got it but can I suggest that in the future, maybe send the answer as a PM so the slow ones here can still have a crack.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list
What are Brownie Points?
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