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Ones Heritage In Coins

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 Posted 11/25/2012  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
Funny. I just read earlier today that the Vandals are believed to have originated in Sweden.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Interesting read...I saw the title and wondered about the same locale--I have ancestors from Skåne.


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So I wonder does anyone know if coins exist before the Vikings appeared?
Roman and Islamic coins found their way to Scandinavia, but the first 'Viking' coins came from the later, Christianized period. Norway and Sweden began minting coins around 995 AD, which were copies of Anglo-Saxon designs, which were already in use. Before then, Viking money was often roughly shaped pieces of silver, or loops of gold--probably worn on a cord. Here's a nicer example of wearable money from 850 AD.

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I have a photoessay of Viking money here, pictures taken at Oslo's Cultural History museum. Here are links to part II and part III.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list
Wow... My heritage is a lot easier to find coins of... My family was British from Celtic times to between 1620 and late in the 1700's...
Also, gold coins issued by a fellow clansmen of mine (clan Moffat): http://www.coinfacts.com/historical..._company.htm
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 Posted 11/25/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Interesting..I have been doing alot of reading about trying to find my origins. I have green eyes and hoped I would be able to track the mutation, with a little research and sources provided through wikipedia's sources. Green eyes find there origin in Central Asia during the late bronze age. Then I started reading about 4000 year old Europoid mummies discovered in Western China. Thats wild!
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 Posted 11/25/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Scandinavia was very slow to adopt the concept of "coinage as money". Coins certainly did reach Scandinavia in ancient times, but these are purely foreign imports and were treated as pieces of bullion - much like the ancient Egyptians treated ancient Greek coins until just before the time of Alexander.

The Vikings themselves produced no coinage of their own, either, until they began to conquer and colonize parts of the world that already had coinage circulating, such as Normandy, Ireland and England. The first truly native "coins" from Scandinavia proper did not originate until around 1000 AD.

If you're happy to include Denmark in "Scandinavia", then the Danes were slightly earlier adopters. The Hedeby coins, some of which depict classic Viking-style longships, appear to originate from Denmark and date from around the 800s AD.

Norway even issued a commemorative coin for the 1000th anniversary of the first Scandinavian coin, in 1995, with a replica of that original design stamped into it. NGC Database page. As for the originals, many are extremely scarce, with less than a dozen surviving examples known. So if you've set your heart on acquiring a very early Scandinavian coin, I hope you've got a longship-full of cash to pay for it.
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 Posted 11/25/2012  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list


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There were people there clearly before the Vikings but it doesn't mean they were necessarily monetarized.

I find it amazing to think that approximately 5,000 generations lived their lifes before dreaming up money and I wonder how many times it was independantly invented since it seems such an obvious idea...(the world after all has had pockets of people that remained cut off from the rest, lived and died maybe undiscovered, who knows what occurred before historical records began?)
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 Posted 11/26/2012  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
That's a cool petroglyph--obviously the basic "Viking" ship design far predated that culture.
I had forgotten about the Hedeby coins. No doubt pieces of gold and silver sufficed as money long before there were banks and central authority issuing currency. In the Viking era, there may have been an informal issuing of money based on metal value. Check out the symbols on the gold above--that arch symbol is found on a lot of Viking-era money, which I've linked to above.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Why mint coins it seems a heck of a lot easier to show up and take them...Great background information, maybe my people where not all that civilized as to make fine works of art in antiquity, ah well what can you do? Seeing as I don't have a long boat full of cash, I suppose I should just do what my ancestors did... head out, and procure easily accessible coins.
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 Posted 11/26/2012  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list


I have a little Norski in me too!..very good info, thanks Master Anoob...
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 Posted 07/26/2014  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ankjevik to your friends list
I live in Norway, and my ancestors can be traced back to the early 1100's here in Norway. And I'm a very serious coin collector, I'm so lucky to have a very early bracteat with a capital B in the middle, it's from 1100's like my ancestors. The Norwegian minted coins from that era is unbelievable rare. Even the highest expert on those coins who is responsible for the coins from the "viking era" on the Norwegian coin gallery in Oslo have many coins even he hasn't seen. Like the wery few coins minted in Trondheim just besides the Nidaros Cathedral and the Archbishop's Palace are located side by side in the middle of the city centre. The cathedral, built from 1070 on, is the most important Gothic monument in Norway and was Northern Europe's most important Christian pilgrimage site during the Middle Ages,[17] with pilgrimage routes leading to it from Oslo in southern Norway and from the Jämtland and Värmland regions of Sweden. Today, it is the northernmost medieval cathedral in the world, and the second largest in Scandinavia. Also the oldest parts of the cathedral consist of the octagon with its surrounding ambulatory. This was the site of the original high altar, with the reliquary casket of Saint Olaf, and choir. Design of the octagon may have been inspired by the Corona of Canterbury Cathedral, although octagonal shrines have a long history in Christian architecture. Similarly, the choir shows English influence, and appears to have been modeled after the Angel Choir of Lincoln Cathedral.

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 Posted 07/26/2014  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ankjevik to your friends list
and the coins minted in Trondheim was minted under Archbishop Olav Engelbrektsson who served as a leader of Norway in attempting to resist the Danish Reformation but was forced into exile by King Christian III in 1537. The archdiocese was abolished and replaced with a Lutheran superintendenture. I was there checking out the remains after the coin workshop there earlier this year. it was realy interesting!!
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 Posted 07/26/2014  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
Last month I had the luck to win a small piece of my heritage, this AE Half Chalkus of King Tigranes II of Armenia (Herakles type, Bedoukian 101), 95-56 BCE, from a "Gitbud & Naumann" auction.


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 Posted 07/27/2014  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
This is a cool topic.

My ancestors are Czech. Wikipedia has this:

The Czech people are primarily descended from Western Slavs[12] who settled in Bohemia, Moravia and Austria in the 6th century, and mixed with Celts, the Gallic tribe Boii, and Germanic Marcomanni and Quadi in the 1st century.

Maybe with some research I should be able to find a coin or two.

Thanks Anoob!
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 Posted 07/27/2014  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
Wow,OK. This one would be nice if I could afford it.

http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/apo...Default.aspx
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 Posted 07/28/2014  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
My ancestors ultimately hail from Spain, which over its long history, was inhabited by native Iberians, Carthaginians, Romans, Vandals, Visigoths, and Arabs/Berbers. I have several coins struck in Spain from its Roman and Visigothic eras.

Roman coin of Augustus, struck in Julia Traducta (modern Algeciras), 27 BC-14 AD:

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Roman coin in the name of Germanicus and Drusus, from Carteia (near modern Gibraltar), 14-37 AD:

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Visigothic bronze nummi, both from Hispalis (modern Seville), mid 7th-century AD:

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Visigothic nummus, struck in Emerita (modern Mérida), mid 7th-century AD:

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