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Is This Pricing Fair?

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 Posted 12/01/2012  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
I'll be surprised if there is anything in there worth the time and trouble of cleaning let alone resale value.
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 Posted 12/01/2012  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I think the price might be worth the fun. Good Luck. You might end up spending more on the oil then on the coins...
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 Posted 12/01/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
With a KG you might consider trying samples using various methods of cleaning and see it oil is better than water, EDTA or whatever else you can think of.
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 Posted 12/01/2012  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
I say go for it! Of course its your money and I really want to see what you get for your money!

If you do buy, please post pics! I have always wondered what was out there in big uncleaned lots.

In the end it is going to depend what you get to determine the value of your money.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Okay, I've asked him, £65 shipped to my door, working out at about 26p per coin! Assuming that half the coins are broken ones, thats 52p a coin. Assuming half of those are slugs, about £1 per coin. Not much space to lose. After 500g, shipping really bucks up the price (£155 shipped).

Now, who can I get this as a christmas present out of?

(Im asking him for pictures of the specific lot as well)
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 Posted 12/02/2012  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
I've always wanted to buy these when I see them on ebay, they seem a lot more expensive though than the deal you have got.

I say go for it, at £65 you only really need to find a dozen decent condition common coins to make the deal worthwhile. Thats discounting the 'worth' you will get from cleaning, scraping, IDing and posting them here, I suspect they could keep you going for a long time. If your lot is decent I might see if I can get a similar deal from the seller.

Keep us informed.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Well - If I do get them - I could put some for trade on the trade forum. Ancient starter packs for people who want to dabble - allow people to ask for specific uncleaned designs, even. Theres no way I could store 250 coins. I think most of the fun would be sorting and grading - I couldnt clean all of them.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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I could put some for trade on the trade forum.


I'd probably be interested, I enjoy IDing 'difficult' coins more than most things in the hobby. I like the fact that the guy was honest and admitted he looks through them, everyone who has handled these coins since they left the ground has done this and any seller who claims otherwise is lying.
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 Posted 12/02/2012  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Im just waiting for a picture of the lot id receive - then the haggling will commence (Id have to use my parents Paypal, due to my age).
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 Posted 12/03/2012  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Ive got pictures now - I see a couple of alright looking coins int here, but its clearly been picked through. Still, Id love to have a look through it.

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Is-This-Pricing-Fair?

What are peoples thoughts? I think, looking at the quality of the coins, I could try getting it for slightly less (perhaps haggle down to £55 shipped?).
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 Posted 12/03/2012  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list

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I'll be surprised if there is anything in there worth the time and trouble of cleaning let alone resale value.


My opinion is still the same.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
JW may well be right - I can see a few coins that look like they could be IDed but not many.

As with a lot of things this would be a bit of a lottery, they could clean up good or they could show little or no improvement, impossible to know before hand. Maybe think about it for a couple of days and let the initial excitement wear off, then see if you still really want them.
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 Posted 12/05/2012  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Well - I've decided against it for a few reasons:

No1: Looking at the pictures, I see absolutely nothing workable into a nice coin.
No2: The seller is not very helpful and is quite short tempered, I simply dont want to do business with him.
No3: I can use the money to buy something else I have my eye on.

Some day ill get a big batch, but ill get it elsewhere. If anyone wants to try their hand at getting this batch, ill happily pass you over.
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 Posted 12/05/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Prob the right decision

Some of these uncleaned lots have been searched so often nothing but slugs remain. This looks like it may be one of those. I've wanted to pull the trigger on a big uncleaned lot for a long time but its not easy. I came across this a few days ago:

[eBayItem]271116756003[/eBayItem]

I would need an unhealthy level of trust in the seller to part with this sort of cash. After import you would be looking at £1500. You can buy a lot of nice coins for that sort of money....but still the unknown has a grip on me
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 Posted 12/05/2012  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinage123 to your friends list
I can vouch for the ebay seller you mentioned Bobbyhelmet. It is the only seller which I have bought uncleaned coins from and they all cleaned up pretty nicely.(I did however only purchase 5 and it was a few years ago now...) £1500 is a serious amount of cash though.
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