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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Berk, I agree with your 4 points 100%. I buy almost everything from three LCS's. Could I save buying online? Probably but there is no interaction with that. To me coins are about learning. I have to believe when it is time to sell I will be treated better then if I had never stepped inside their stores.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I find it hilarious (don't see it on this board but do elsewhere) where these SHTF doomsdayers are buying all their crap online and spending all their time on message boards. Where are they going to be if they're correct and something does happen, but they're off the wall personality wise and struggle to work with people face-to-face? Not to mention they don't have connections for anything because they don't know anyone. I get what youre saying but thats really not true. Just because you buy something at a better price on the internet doesn't mean youre a recluse who is socially awkward. Youre also assuming if that were to ever happen people would behave rationally and with respect for each other. They wont, it will be everyone for themselves for quite sometime before trade and barter starts and society begins to reform. You cant have a society be destroyed, especially a technology dependent one, and expect anything but mass chaos
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Valued Member
 United States
90 Posts |
I understand that part of having the relationship but in the end isn't it let's get bullion at cheapest price. Even on your example I would have to pay sales tax too so it would be a extra $47 for only 10 ASE. to me Id rather have the extra savings in more ounces. He even said the premiums on gold mart were lower than what his wholeseller charges him. That didn't make sense to me cause should know about these things right. Also $7500 orders ship free. So he wouldn't have to worry about that. It seems like some people don't trust the Internet with bullion. I mean wouldn't you order a new tv off Amazon if it was cheaper than store near you.
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Valued Member
 United States
90 Posts |
Do most of you plan to hold silver for long term 15+ years
Or are some thinking when the government starts getting a plan to lower the deficit they will sell all?
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Most will probably say hold no matter what. A lot will depend on how things are going though. If it just kind of depends what happens and why for me. If it hits 50 for no reason like last time I'm selling all I can, if it hits that because things are that bad I'm holding onto it
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Valued Member
 United States
90 Posts |
Basebal. What would really cause silver to go back under $10. Do you ever envision that?
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New Member
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Quote: What would really cause silver to go back under $10. Do you ever envision that?
The economy improving, entitlement reforms that make the programs sustainable, and businesses expanding. Its likely it may not get under 10 again as that could be its industrial value price with the new uses for it. But it could get right around there if politicans got serious about the real issues and stopped pretending like the problem is the rich arent taxed enough.
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Valued Member
United States
148 Posts |
Quote: The economy improving, entitlement reforms that make the programs sustainable, and businesses expanding. Its likely it may not get under 10 again as that could be its industrial value price with the new uses for it. But it could get right around there if politicans got serious about the real issues and stopped pretending like the problem is the rich arent taxed enough. You nailed it, and if that happens we'll have another 1990s stock market going through the roof, housing going gangbusters, low unemployment, job safety and increasing wages, and at that point who cares if silver is $10 an ounce if everything else in your financial life is doing well!? But if it doesn't happen and we continue on the same path, then silver might be the place to be.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I dont think well see the 1990s stock market again just because of how inflated it was from the .com bubble but exactly. Never hurts to have a backup plan but real changes will have to happen to see real progress for the economy. It sure would be nice though to not have to shell out 30+ bucks for an ASE. The only thing we know for sure if we have 4 more years of the same path, after that who knows. Disability will be about tapped out by then with SS not far behind so that may force some real changes to come. If those run out and were still staying the course then when its time to start getting a couple monster boxes
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Pillar of the Community
Japan
666 Posts |
Quote: Do most of you plan to hold silver for long term 15+ years I do plan to hold until I see the better way to store buying power Quote: Or are some thinking when the government starts getting a plan to lower the deficit they will sell all? I have no idea how they going to do it ... well, only revolution maybe, but the guys in DC will not solve country's problems - I'm 99.99999% sure
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
Actually, if the economy improves, (which it is albeit slowlyyyyyyy) gold and silver are going higher as well.
So as it goes higher I would be a buyer (I always do buy proofs no matter what).
But no, the thinking that gold and silver only go up in bad times is flawed going forward. When Bear Sterns blew up and the other brokerages we barely got a nudge up in gold prices. In fact as things got nastier, gold start slipping until turning back up along with the overall stock market.
Yes, its true, the stock market and PMs did rise in tandem. Dont believe me , pull up a chart from the bottom the market made in 09 for the SPX.
SO, even if the economy doest fall apart and gets better, (which it is and CB's will make sure they print until something sticks) guess what.... gold and silver are going higher.
Why?
One reason is I believe gold and silver have entered a new era and are not being considered some stodgy material that collects dust and doesn't pay out yield.
Another reason is gold has been a longgggggggggg runnner here thats not done running higher. The cycles take time to play out before it peters out. It should be no surprise after such a steady run up, gold now needs to churn and consolidate these price gains and the price action we are seeing now is healthy and should be welcomed by those holding gold with patience.
Gold also now has entered a phase where its considered a sort of currency. Various countries now are doing deals in gold, one recent one was Iran and Turkey. Furthermore, CB's are buying gold, and wealthy investors are accepting it as a necessary hedge. On the fringes, gold will get support from wealthy asian nations, and ima not just talking China. think Vietnam, Singapore, Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan etc.
Finally, there's not a heck of a whole lot of gold. YES, its in the ground. DEEP, dangerous spots. To go deeper, this warrants more higher prices to make it worthwhile and even then, its risky.
So, there is enough demand factors to keep this going.
So there are a lot of factors in favor of gold. And of course, all trends run their course and end up grinding down. Trust me, you will know when gold and silver are done running. But for now, I for one, especially on trading vehicles such as AGQ,UGL, SLV, and GLD... should we make new fresh all time highs I will be buying higher to sell higher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
Oh, and btw, the stock market indices, the SPX and DIJA, have made all times this year. WORLD stock markets from Germany, to Mexico, to Hong Kong, to Singapore Switzerland, even the UK which is in recession are making all time highs and these are just a few world stock markets to name a few. Money is indeed flowing to the stock market.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Quote: Oh, and btw, the stock market indices, the SPX and DIJA, have made all times this year. They sure have. Amazing what runaway central bank money printing can do for inflating share prices. Too bad that they aren't rising because of higher earnings from REAL economic growth. That would be a MUCH better story.
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Valued Member
 United States
90 Posts |
Thanks for all the responses. I do like having bullion. But I enjoy collecting the proof eagles and one day hope to compete the set so every year I only need the 1. My plan is to add to bullion when possible and every now and then treat myself to a proof.
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