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Is It A Perfect Silver Eagle Set?

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 Posted 12/14/2012  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
ANACS is great to get a variety coin attributed...they will do MANY coins that the Big Two won't touch...

I would defer for regular modern's though....

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 Posted 12/14/2012  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
...and they do not charge extra for attribution (if you provide the attribution for them, they will verify it)...although I still don't like their holder.
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12/14/2012 12:59 pm
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 Posted 12/14/2012  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
If you are asking would an ANACS 70 cracked out and sent to PCGS or NGC come back as a 70, I'd say most of the time no. But on the other hand a PCGS or NGC 70 cracked out and resubmitted will probably not come back as a 70 most of the time either. And a PCGS or NGC 70 cracked out and sent to ANACS is not a lock to come back as an ANACS 70 either.
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 Posted 12/14/2012  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
It should be a fine looking coin, but in terms of market premium it wont be the same as PCGS or even NGC. You could say theyre a little loser with the 70s, but you could also say PCGS is too stingy with 70s
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 Posted 12/14/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinish to your friends list
The reason I am asking is because a few months ago I saw an ICG graded PF70 DCAM Lincoln set on ebay, and SsuperDdave informed me that ICG is considered "sub par" in their choice of the "70" designation. So I ultimately decided not to bid.

I know NGC and PCGS are trustworthy, but as I was unaware of ICG's shortcoming on grading "70," I wanted input on ANACS before I consider bidding.
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 Posted 12/14/2012  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
I will add that when I was buying Morgan dollars I got some GREAT looking ICG graded coins at a fraction of their PCGS/NGC counterparts...and they seemed appropriately graded.

I have no clue about their history with moderns...

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but you could also say PCGS is too stingy with 70s


ahhh, yes, created and perceived rarities. Self limit the numbers and create a market demand for your products...brilliant
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 Posted 12/14/2012  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
ICG is not saub par, nor is ANACS. They follow the same standards of grading. I can point to plenty of PCGS and NGC coins that are way over graded. It is popular opinion that PCGS and NGC are Gods gift to grading, but it just aint true.

Simple fact is you have just as good of a chance of an ANACS or ICG 70 actually being perfect as you do PCGS or NGC. SGS on the other hand...LOL
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 Posted 12/14/2012  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinish to your friends list
Thanks for all the input. The auction does not end until Monday, so I have plenty of time to think about it. I'm a novice, but there is something about a proof 70 DCAM that excites me.
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 Posted 12/14/2012  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Whats the price on it and whats included?
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 Posted 12/14/2012  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ant024 to your friends list
You do always have a higher premium on pcgs though. I would only buy pcgs or Ngc. I try to stick to pcgs though. You will always get more money on the sale.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinish to your friends list

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Whats the price on it and whats included?


ANACS PR70 DCAM & MS70 FIRST RELEASE 2008 SILVER EAGLE SET

The current bid is $79.88 with free shipping.
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 Posted 12/15/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
The only reason I would say not to buy ANACS 70 coins is because the resale value as most 69's and 70's look the same to me. The reason people even buy 70 graded coins is for a Registry set and since ANACS coins aren't included in any registry sets the premium on them is not there like it would be for PCGS and NGC graded coins. As was said above chances of any of the TOP TPG's 70 graded coins crossing over into another TPG slab at the same grade is pretty slim. ANACS gives out quite a bit more 70's than the other two top TPG's but that dopesn't mean the coins do not warrant them because like I said most people can not tell the difference between a 69 and 70 when looking at the coins even under magnification


With classics ICG does a fine job of grading and their reputation states they are very lax on their grading on Moderns and that is why SsuperDdave said what he did about them being sub par. Even if they are just as good the perception of the general collecting community isn't the same and that is what would make any 70 in their holder sell for what a 69 or even a 68 in any PCGS/NGC slab would sell for
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 Posted 12/15/2012  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list

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The reason people even buy 70 graded coins is for a Registry set


That's a good reason but I buy them for potential price appreciation AND a equally important reason is the grade guarantee for the 70's against spotting...worked for me quite a few times

Again, I would not consider ANACS for ASE's unless it was very near spot price...
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 Posted 12/17/2012  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinish to your friends list
I am not looking at "resale value." As I mentioned earlier, I just like proof 70 DCAM coins and I want to have this set. It is really nice.

If NGC graded them at MS 70 and PR70 DCAM, it would be $79 for the MS 70 and $110 for the PR70, but I don't want to bid $189 because it is ANACS. The bidding is now at $82, which is less than $9 above spot for each coin.

My conundrum on this is that I do not want to think I can get them at a low price and miss out because someone else sees more value in them. I need to know what people think they are worth and then adjust my bid plans to that area of pricing. I appreciate the input from Foxwoods Man and basebal21.

It would really help me out to find out what more forum members think an ANACS graded MS 70 and PR70 DCAM Silver Eagle set is worth?
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