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2012 ATB S-Mint Business Strike Mintage

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 Posted 05/25/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list
On of last years sold 1.7m - numbers aren't going crazy like I thought they might.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add extraleafquarter to your friends list
In my opinion, the typical mintage of 4 out of the 5 2012 "S" Unc. ATB Quarters of 1.4 M is about to be matched with the sales of the White Mt. "S" Unc. quarters. I suspect that the USM will to offer each 2013 "S" Unc. issue all year long as new 2013 issues are offered. Comments....
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 Posted 06/17/2013  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
They will leave each "S-mint" coin available for sale for 1 year (for the day of its release)..... they want to maximize their revenue....

Until we have/see the final mintage of 2013-S coins, the 2012-S coins will not increase in value significantly.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I help out I. Coin shops, four days a week. Lately I have been asking customers, that are buying ATB Quarters, if they also want the "S" mint quarters also, so far none know what I am talking about, until I show them.

Most of the time the customers say there is no place in their album/folder, so they don't want them.

IMO the "S" mint quarters will not go up in price, like they should, until there are spots for them in albums.

For me, I have a Dansco date set album for my ATB Quarters, "S" mint.
It has only one spot for each quarter. For 2010, I put a set of silver "S" proof quarters. For 2011, I put a set of clad "S" proof quarter. The rest of the spots, from 2012 on, I will put "S" mint business strike quarters.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
I wonder if any manufacturer would consider making albums or folders with slots for the S business coins. The mint may suddenly stop making them.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list
I am guessing the makers of the folders are holding off until they know the mint is seriously going to release these every year. So far the mint has done 1 1/2 years worth and could shut it down and not do another round of them, or they could be doing these early to the end... who really knows.

I have rolls of each coin from last year and bags and rolls of this years offerings and will keep buying them - since it is an odd one off type offering.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
It doesn't hurt to put a few of each aside. Some member are putting some into circulation, which will generate interest.

When there are more interest and more people know about the S-mint circulated quarter, then both OSMS's question regarding album AND Doug58s' concern about the Mint suddenly stop will be address: Enough demand/interest will prompt the album maker to create spot for it & for the mint to continue issue these.

So, if we like the S-mint coins and want to push the issue, the best thing is to get more and more people to collect these, spread the words.....
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 Posted 06/17/2013  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
After reading all this, you guys have talked me into buying a few rolls of each 2013-S as they are released.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
I'm still on the fence on this one, leaning to one side. As an investment, I have my doubts. If you added up all the people serious enough about collecting the entire series, that number is a fraction of the total quantity minted. Not sure what that number is, but I'd feel safe to say that it's well under 50%. So there is plenty of supply for quite a while (intentionally ambiguous). The current situation, in my opinion, is that there is a smaller group of people sitting on larger quantities for speculation. And I do hope it's speculation, not a new trend in collecting. Moving from collecting individual coins to rolls and bags would be a burden. I shouldn't need a hand truck when I want to take out my collection to show someone. Still, I think I may pick up a few rolls just to be safe!

About the albums, I doubt that we'll see any changes. Preprinting the entire series was already way outside the comfort zone for the manufacturers. Remember the old folders? They'd only print up to the previous year and you had to hand write the rest. Glad they didn't do that. I can keep my handwriting neat for a four digit number and a letter, but that's about it.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
I am not trying to convince anyone to stockpile these rolls.... hehehe (that would increase the final mintage).... I merely suggesting of getting at least 1 roll of each S-mint design. This will ensure you have enough supplies to fill in as many albums (average collectors have at least a few albums going) with the best coins possible, with some extras to trade and/or giving away. So I'm implying you all to break up the rolls pick/save the best, spend the rest.... as this is the best way to get more people to know & collect these and this will keep the ball moving.

Note: No matter how rare a coin is, it is worthless if nobody want it. For example, even though the 1909-S VDB is the key to LWC series, its mintage is a lot higher than many other older coins such as Large Cent & 2-cents; however, it worth/command so much in $$$ because there are many more LWC collectors out there that need/want this coin than the mintage can supply (compare to collectors of Large Cent & 2-Cents, the LWC collectors are many more out there).... same thing can be seen in the 1931-S LWC.
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 Posted 11/01/2013  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
I am revisiting this thread since there's a an article that did mentioned the final number of coin sold for 2012-S ATB business strike: http://mintnewsblog.com/2013/09/exa...ul-quarters/


Also: http://news.coinupdate.com/us-mint-...debuts-1829/
El Yunque - Rolls 16,961 - Bags 10,017 - Total Mintage 1,680,140
Chaco - Rolls 16,528 - Bags 7,279 - Total Mintage 1,389,020
Acadia - Rolls 17,093 - Bags 7,254 - Total Mintage 1,409,120
Volcanoes - Rolls 17,478 - Bags 7,100 - Total Mintage 1,409,120
Denali - Rolls 17,668 - Bags 7,025 - Total Mintage 1,409,220
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11/01/2013 01:39 am
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 Posted 11/01/2013  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
I find it interesting that these S mint quarters aren't included in the mint set. Not that I want the mint sets to be any bigger, but the Kennedy half is not released for circulation and its included so why not these?
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 Posted 11/01/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list

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the Kennedy half is not released for circulation and its included so why not these?

Mint Set coins are produced as Uncirculated coins (struck on dedicated lower-speed presses at higher striking forces in their own sections of the Denver and Philadelphia Mints).
The San Francisco circulation-finish Quarters are not (officially speaking) Uncirculated coins.

Circulation-finish NIFC JFK Half-Dollars (as opposed to the Uncirculated coins in Mint Sets) are sold only in bags and rolls, just like the NIFC BU "S" Quarters.

I would add that the quality of the 2012-S Hawaii Volcanos Quarters from the roll I opened seemed at least on par with the Uncirculated Quarters in my 2012 Mint Sets, so their production method may in fact be "Uncirculated-grade", but the Mint does not claim these coins to be "Uncirculated". Does San Francisco Mint even have high-volume presses on the premises anymore?
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11/01/2013 10:51 am
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 Posted 11/01/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinDan98 to your friends list

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Good grief, how many quarters were available for 2012?

El Yunque Denver mint
El Yunque Philadelphia mint
El Yunque San Francisco mint business strike
El Yunque San Francisco mint proof
El Yunque San Francisco mint silver

Chaco Culture Denver mint
Chaco Culture Philadelphia mint
Chaco Culture San Francisco mint business strike
Chaco Culture San Francisco mint proof
Chaco Culture San Francisco mint silver

Acadia Denver mint
Acadia Philadelphia mint
Acadia San Francisco mint business strike
Acadia San Francisco mint proof
Acadia San Francisco mint silver

Hawaii Volcanoes Denver mint
Hawaii Volcanoes Philadelphia mint
Hawaii Volcanoes San Francisco mint business strike
Hawaii Volcanoes San Francisco mint proof
Hawaii Volcanoes San Francisco mint silver

Denali Denver mint
Denali Philadelphia mint
Denali San Francisco mint business strike
Denali San Francisco mint proof
Denali San Francisco mint silver

----25 quarters. Isn't that excessive?

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 Posted 11/01/2013  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list

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Mint News Blog: "With mintage levels for the circulating quality "P" and "D" mint marked quarters continuing to increase, the lower mintage "S" mint marked coins may represent an opportunity for collectors."

The first six varieties of 2012 business strike P and D Quarters are each under 26 million. Acadia-D @ 21,606,000, Chaco Culture @ 22 million each, P and D. Yours truly was "backing up the truck".

A year later, for 2013 only the White Mountain-P variety is under 100 million (and compare its 68,800,000 to the first six 2012 varieties).

For both 2011 and 2012, the last design of the year had more than double the mintages of the preceding design, at both Mints.

If that rule held true this year, we'd have over 300 million Mount Rushmores from each Mint

I don't think that will happen, but it is possible that the mintage of the Mount Rushmore-D variety may finally surpass the lowest-mintage State Quarter variety (which was Oklahoma-D @ 194,600,000).

I'm saving far less of the 2013 BU rolls than the 2012's, but the fact that banks can't special-order BU rolls means I'll continue to save some ATB BU rolls, no matter how high the mintages are.

And, if business strike mintage levels stay above 100 million per variety, BU "S" Quarters will be the only "low-mintage" varieties, as the Mint News Blog article pointed out.

2013-S Mintages are likely to be 1.7 million+, since over 1.5 million 2013-S White Mountain coins have already been sold, and all product options for the 2013-S W.M. are still available as I type this.
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11/01/2013 10:04 pm
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