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 Posted 01/01/2013  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list

Hi mdlock,

If you're interested in Canadian coins it's real handy to have a Charlton Standard Catalogue of Canadian Coins... very good pictures for helping to identify varieties... keep in mind that the prices are not accurate as far as current listed values as it is only published once a year... Canadian Coin News "Trends" is published every two weeks...

Here are photos from Charlton... as well as the difference in the top of the numeral 5, also note how much smaller the numeral 7 is in Small Date as compared to Large Date...



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Variety Master... not sure that it is "funny" someone has been mislead, by wrong grading information on a certified package... this is unfortunate to have happened to this buyer and hopefully he will discover the error and be able to return for a refund...

Once again, it is a good reminder of the addage, "Buy the coin, not the package"...

Take care, and Best Wishes for a Happy, Healthy, and Prosperous New Year!

cameron93
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 Posted 01/01/2013  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list

Quote:
If you're interested in Canadian coins it's real handy to have a Charlton Standard Catalogue of Canadian Coins... very good pictures for helping to identify varieties... keep in mind that the prices are not accurate as far as current listed values as it is only published once a year... Canadian Coin News "Trends" is published every two weeks...


Because trends are published every two weeks does not mean prices are updated more often on average than a yearly publication. In fact, up to last year or two I don't think the price of the 1859 narrow 9 double punch number 1 was adjusted in close to 8 years in trends!
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 Posted 01/01/2013  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdlock to your friends list
Looking at you description I would say that mine is the Large date due to the buldge on the lower circle of the 5
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 Posted 01/01/2013  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list
Hi mdlock,

I would have to agree with you... it appears that your coin is indeed a "Large Date" variety... here's a photo of only the date on your coin blown up a bit to use as comparison to Charlton pics...

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The length of the top of 5 which many focus on to use as the indicator of variety can sometimes be deceptive...

For comparison there are other details to look at, such as:

The gap between the numeral 8 and numeral 7 on your coin matches the narrower distance between as shown in the Charlton pictures for a large date variety... also clearly the 7 numeral is larger than that shown in Charlton pics for the small date... the width of the numeral 1 is wider on the large date... and of course the shape of the numeral 5 buldging much more in the body...

Take care, and Happy New Year!

cameron93
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 Posted 01/01/2013  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdlock to your friends list
Thank you I am now excited again. I wish condition were better. What kid of value would you put on it. I have alot more stamps then coins. I also go to stamp forum.
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 Posted 01/01/2013  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list

By condition of details alone my opinion would be a solid F-12... maybe F-15...

But the damage on this coin reduces its value significantly...

It is the rarest of five cent silver pieces based on current listed values... "Trends" is $650 in F-12...

By comparison, in F-12, 1925 is $100, 1926 "far 6" is $200, 1884 and 1858 LD are $300, and 1875 SD is $350...

Not sure what you would get for this coin if you tried to sell it on ebay mdlock... "maybe" a couple hundred?

It is an interesting one to have in your collection though :)

Take care,

cameron93

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 Posted 01/01/2013  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list
Small date.
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 Posted 01/01/2013  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list

By the size of the date relative to the size of CENTS I'd say it's a small date.The numerals on the large date are about the same size as the letters.Unfortunately Charlton's does not show the entire reverse.
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 Posted 01/01/2013  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list

I respect your experience and wisdom...

But you're gonna have to educate me here...

Don't bite off my finger... just look where it's pointing :)

The pictures show that mdlock's coin has more indicators than not that it is a "Large Date"...

First pic is Charlton LD... third pic Charlton SD... mdlock's coin in middle...

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It appears to me that the gap between the numeral 8 and numeral 7 on mdlock coin matches the narrower distance between as shown in the Charlton pictures for a large date variety... also clearly the 7 numeral is larger than that shown in Charlton pics for the small date... the width of the numeral 1 is wider on the large date... and the shape of the numeral 5 buldging much more in the body on the right hand portion...

Respectfully,

cameron93
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 Posted 01/01/2013  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list
Check the 1875's for sale on ebay. The 5 on the one large date has a shape totally different from this coin. The numbers are bigger and almost the same size as the letters in cent. In this case, Charlton's example is not good for showing the difference.
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 Posted 01/01/2013  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list
I don't have a large date 1875 but I think the five cent has the same shape of 5 in the date. (Middle coin in my photo)

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 Posted 01/01/2013  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdlock to your friends list
I was told that the way to tell was the maple leaf under five if it st sticks out to the left of maple leaf it was small date. this one does not it is directly below. so it is a large date
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 Posted 01/02/2013  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
The first picture is an ICCS G4 Large Date and the second picture is an ICCS F15 Small Date if these help you.


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 Posted 01/02/2013  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdlock to your friends list
It is my opinion that my coin is definately a large date. I would like other opinions as well.
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 Posted 12/23/2013  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tvthomas to your friends list
I have just found one in the uk and don't know how to go about selling it have also found some other coins to
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