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Pillar of the Community
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It certainly looks silver - It may be trying to look like a siliqua, I dont think this design was ever made in silver though  Even from these bad pictures something seems 'wrong' with it to me. Probably one to avoid unless you can put a bit of research in to find out exactly what it is or is supposed to be. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is a similar coin for which I paid $12 in January last year: RIC 15b,xvii  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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If the coin provides a brick wall - Does the seller look trustworthy?
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Pillar of the Community
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something seems 'wrong' with it to me While I don't see any monetary gain in faking such a coin, I would agree that something looks off. As x6 would say: Where there is doubt, there is no doubt. |
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Pillar of the Community
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my first thought was "that looks strange", haven't seen one like that silvered. I would pass on that also.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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In 'silver' and passed off as a siliqua maybe £50 would be achievable. Not done any research at all (would like to) but suspect its a tourist thingy, not happy to condemn it but wouldn't buy it at present. Quote:
Where there is doubt, there is no doubt.  |
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 United Kingdom
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I think I'll pass on this one then... As far as how trustworthy the seller is, I don't believe he knows what it is. He believes it's a "pure silver denarius".
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 United States
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I agree Bobby it does look a little off, it could just be the grainy pictures though. In any event these coins are very common and even in better condition so I'd hold off for a better one.
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United Kingdom
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I'd hold off for a better one. Ok will do  thank you all! |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Checked a few fake reports and no matches as yet.
Obviously the metal itself is very odd but its also very round (makes me think mounts for earrings or a necklace) and the 'SPFAVG' lettering just doesn't look at home.
Gotta catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs right now but might try to find out more tomorrow.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is an extremely common AE3 type of Valens. See type 6 on this site: http://esty.ancients.info/ricix/They were not surface silvered. The silvery look must be an artifact of the photography. The flan chip at 11:00 is a big negative. Long ago I saw cigar boxes full of AE3s of this period -- thousands of them. It is one of the most common Roman types of all. It might be worth $5 but one without the flan flaw would not cost much more. A super EF well centered and bold coud be a lot more, maybe $40. But, in my opinion, this coin is not worth anywhere near £20. |
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The coin looks like it may have sat in a mount for jewellery. Its difficult to see anything from those pictures. Maybe easier if they took the images outside. There a seller in Australia (not me) who coats roman coins in silver and another person who makes silver reproductions of roman coins. Without a better picture its hard to tell whether your coin is silver, silvered or perhaps has been coated for jewellery purposes in silver. It looks like there is bronze on Valens cheek which would indicate to me it has had a silver wash.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It does not look like a Siliqua, not the reverse design anyway. The tone of the photo, the dark grey, gives the impression of it being silver. I reckon it is an AE (copper alloy). Certainly, as Gil-galad states, the workshop insignias may make it rare, but for even £10 you could buy a reasonable AR Denarius. Siscia is THE MOST COMMON mint of the "SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE" type for Valens and his brother Valentinian I. It was only an AE issue. However, those from the Rome mint (R● SECVNDA, R●TERTIA) seem to fetch a high price. For example, the below photo is of a Valens "SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE" I sold to a buyer from Italy last year by auction, it went for £25.  Edited by Masis
01/11/2013 11:59 am
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I sold to an a buyer from Italy last year by auction, it went for £25.  Blimey - good result! I also have a tertia marked Valens somewhere, it was one of the first I ever bought as a kid from a bargain bin |
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Quote: Blimey - good result! That is what I thought at the time as well!  Auctions are a minefield for us sellers, as coins we think will sell poorly, if at all, go for a higher than expected price, and then coins of quality, like a fine ancient Greek AE, go for around £1. Below is a photo of the example I mean, an ancient Greek AE from Amphipolis, that only sold for £1.71 a couple of months ago! The bronze itself was worth more than that!   |
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