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 Posted 01/12/2013  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
Cheapest for most of the P and D issues is going to be to ask a CCF roll hunter to watch for BU coins and sell them to you for face plus shipping. 90% of the 1971 to 2000 ones show up in great condition regularly in rolls. I'ld be happy to help.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJB17 to your friends list
I have a set of 2003 P&D clad halves up on ebay right now... nudge, nudge. Here's the link.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Everyone pretty much covered it. Its a big series and took me 2 years to complete it. https://goccf.com/t/136025 You and your husband should enjoy completing it.
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 Posted 01/12/2013  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
muddler pretty much explained it all.

I am not really sure what Dansco album you have. you said


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I bought him a dansco book that can hold proof issues as well


I am hung up on the words "can hold proof issues as well"
It must be just your way of saying things ... I am thinking you have the Dansco 8166 that has holes for proofs and SMS coins.

The two Dansco albums I have, one is for "P and D" coins, the second has holes for proof issues and the BU "P and D" coins.

The first album was easy for me to complete, but the second album, with the proof coins has been a challenge.

Many of the early mints sets have been picked over, which for me makes it hard to find the 68 and 69 BU coins in good grades. Also for 65,66 and 67 there are only SMS sets, so that makes it hard to find the BU/non SMS, coins for those years. Then there is buying the 1992 to date silver proof sets, for just the half dollar gets expensive. I guess you can see I like to fill my Danscos from sets, but there are chances you can find the coins individually at a better price.

I would like to say that when these sets are completed with nice grade coins, they are very nice sets to have in your collection. I recently seen a completed BU/proof Dansco sell for $1200 at a local coin shop.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list
GR58
I do have the 8166 album. So when the book says for the 1965,66,67 regular and SMS, what does that mean? Are they differentiated by mint mark as well?
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 Posted 01/13/2013  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Here are my suggestions:
1. Take the time to look for a Red Book by Whitman Publishing. It will explain almost all the things you need to know about US coins.
2. Try places on line if you doh't have access to a coin store, hobby store, coin show for such books and coins.
3. Keep away from places like ebay unless you know what your doing and buying.
4. Do not purchase sets if you only want certain separate coins. However, individual coins from sets usually cost more.
5. There is a place called Wizard Coin Supply on the internet that many coin people say is one of the better, cheaper, most complete places to buy coins and stuff.
6. Get to know the real prices and values of each coin prior to buying them. Many use a web a web site called Numismedia.
7. Again such questions as Silver content, availability in dates, Minted in sets only, etc. are easily found in that Red Book.
8. As a just FYI only, you may want to check out the Whitman web site for other possible books and coin related items. Not a good place to buy from though since they prefer to sell to dealers in bulk. Individual sales are expensive.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Coin chick, no there are no mint marks to differentiate the SMS coins. The Special Mint Sets were the mints experiments with new proof processes and the move of proof issues from the Philly mint to the San Fran mint in 68. So while there is no mm to help, SMS coins are going to look very much like a proof coin. Very shiny mirror like fields, and if you get lucky cameo devices. The regular bu coins will be simply pretty business strike coins.

If you get the coins in the SMS sets, then you know for sure it is SMS. Otherwise find a dealer you trust and they will be able to get them for you.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
In 65, 66 and 67 the mint did not make proof sets (or mint sets), but did make what they called a "Special Mint Set" that was proof-like. These coins have no mint marks and are distinguished only by having a brighter, better quality strike.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
Man, I hate it when someone answers at the same time as me. I really need to learn to type faster. Yeah, what smokeriderdon said.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list
So for the 65,66,67 you guys are saying that I can get an SMS set but any other kennedys that year are all out in circulation? No other types of sets to pull from?
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 Posted 01/13/2013  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
65, 66 and 67 SMS have to come from sets, you can buy them individually, but that just means someone else pulled them from sets. Same with all proof coins, silver or clad. They will be cheaper buying individually, as whoever pulled them from sets is also selling the rest of the set loose. All other coins from 1964 through 2000 can be found in circulation except the oddball 1976 ones and the 1970 D and the 1987 P and D, as those three were only issued in mint sets. 2001 and up P and D coins were in mint sets or direct from the mint in bags or rolls.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
Add- all proof coins are S mint.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
@Coin Chick

Yes, 65,66,67 SMS sets or circulation strikes. 64,68, 69,70 have proof sets and mint sets that were issued.
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 Posted 01/14/2013  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Coin Chick .. sorry I did not get back to this post and answer your question.
But it looks like you did get your answer.

This series Dansco 8166 really is a challenge, for me, because of all the different sources you have to get the coins. most of the coins can come from Mint sets .. SMS sets... proof sets and silver proof sets.

Problem coins will be, to find better grade 65,66 and 67 BU coins and 1982/1983 "P and D" coins, because there are no mint sets to harvest the coins from. I am starting to think I may have to purchase these coins in slabs, to get the grades I want.

When I am doing a set like this, I go to a good dealer with my list. I have found sometimes it is cheaper to buy a complete proof set vs a single proof coin ... but sometimes it is not.

Also the 2005 to 2010 mint sets have satin finish coins.
Some members don't like mixing satin coins with business strike coins. Some members, like myself, do not mind mixing them. IMO satin finish coins are better grade and have less mintage.

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 Posted 01/15/2013  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list
Thank you to everyone for all your input. I will start studying prices and figuring out how to tackle this project..

GR58 - I was a little disappointed when I found out I had to mix silver and clad in this book. I was hoping for one or the other. It's the OCD in me.
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