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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It totally depends how much (if any) of the lustre was destroyed in the process.
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United States
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And that, Pokermandude, is why eye appeal is important. A technical grade with poor eye appeal is not worth buying. Difficult to sell even years later. Nowadays I only buy coins which have eye appeal, no matter what the grade: https://goccf.com/t/137735 |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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so what is the difference between dipping and conserving? the skill of the dipper no more no less
that blast white 190() you have........has been conserved. LOL
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I voted 1 but would have voted 0 if it was an option for the reasons stated above. Dipping and cleaning are two different things. Is acetone considered dipping or cleaning? The dipped coins that I have seen have increased luster over pre-dipping. In many cases dipping adds to the eye appeal (silver coins for sure).
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok so call me a dummy but what are all those guys dipping coins in ? Is it not some form of acid ? a chemical compound meant to remove part of the surface of a coin? Therefor enhancing the coin ( dipped ) is altering so points should come off ..The amount would depend on the amount of dipping for sure as stated in some replies
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Valued Member
Canada
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I've witnessed dipping first hand. An ugly George V half dollar with crud all over it was dipped(literally in an out) and rinsed in water immediately. It came out blast white and to the naked eye still had all its luster. The coin came back ICCS MS64 and it was gorgeous. If done properly most would never know a coin has been dipped, however, dip too long or one too many times and the luster is gone. I would agree a coin can be dipped without any points deducted, and I would purchase such a coin, but I still wouldn't remommend this practice to anyone. This is such a touchy topic I'm nervous to even to talk about it.
FYI - for anyone thinking of trying this, it will leave your circulated coins looking dull with no eye appeal. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT but the only coins that would really benefit from this process would be in MS with slight surface 'dirt'
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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fed-ink85-good adivce.
I voted 15 points but I agree with DBM. The actual grade isn't affected. The value is because the surfaces arent origianl
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1700 Posts |
I've seen MS 67 dipped but no 68s.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
632 Posts |
There is dipping and there is dipping. Also, there are coins and coins.
One has to know what and how to dip. With experience, coins gain in eye appeal. I saw a coin coming out of a (PCGS) holder SP65 and coming back on a SP68. Toning hides scratches and important blemishes that will continue invisible to the less experienced or un attentive eye.
But, as with everything else, it is a personal choice or opinion. All coins will eventually tone or lose their brigh redness if something is not done to preserve or restaure them.
Eye appeal does not count in Canadian grading, so, no discount.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Depends if you like blast white or black.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Most 'white' coins have been dipped.
I remember going to coin shows in the 1970's and on the entire show floor, you could not find one toned coin. Dealers were dipping coins right in front of you!
Dipping is NOT cleaning.
Anyone who thinks dipping is cleaning is gravely mistaken.
Now let me also say, I'm not a propopnent of dipping.
I'm also a realist and understand that 90% of old 'white' coins have been dipped and I also believe most toned coins too have been 'messed' with in some form or other.
There are very, very few truly 'original' coins out there, white or toned.
To answer the question....0 points (if done only one or two times thereby not disturbing the coin's surface).
Edited by doubleeagle59
01/16/2013 6:21 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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let me throw this out for discussion..........................98% cent of so called numismatists could not even tell or prove a coin had been dipped or not.?
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Valued Member
Canada
335 Posts |
On a graded coin keep the same grade, of course... but deduct 10-15% value
For a non-graded coin just say its cleaned, and if the buyer wants it I believe the seller should give him a certain percentage off.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I never knowingly buy cleaned coins, as the practice is deceitful and abhorrent. Trying to pass something off for something it's not.
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Pillar of the Community
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617 Posts |
Zero grading points.
Price change depending on appearance.
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