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Valued Member
United States
271 Posts |
It's a 1909 VDB and someone added the S... It's too low to be original, and looks to have tool marks. I've never seen it on a penny buy I have seen Quarters done this way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2150 Posts |
Fake, possible real VDB with added mintmark.
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Moderator
 United States
189767 Posts |
I agree with that, real VDB with fake mint mark.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1391 Posts |
Out if curiosity on my own part, how are fake mint marks added? You couldn't punch them because it would not look right. So I assume that they would scrape a mint mark off another cent and then transfer it over. Would you solder it or glue it? If it was glued wouldn't it come off in an acetone bath?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1436 Posts |
I also agree that it's fake. The top picture posted shows a circular discoloration around the S, from the counterfeiting process. Actually looks like a S/S mintmark.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1721 Posts |
The 'S' looks suspicious and the 'D' on the reverse looks slanted to the right. However, I do think the dent is authentic.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1721 Posts |
And the 'B' looks bad too.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Yeah...I was wondering about the V.D. B too--perhaps it's just wear but the middle stroke doesn't seem angled right? 
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
10743 Posts |
Quote: It's a 1909VDB and someone added the S... I agree, the VDB looks O.K. to me, the 'S' is a fake in my opinion.
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Valued Member
United States
271 Posts |
They take a small area build it up slightly with matching medals, and then take a very precise grinding tool grinding everything but the fake S down and then shaping it. That's why you have a small raised area around the S. It is not a job for the average person, it takes years of experience.
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Valued Member
United States
50 Posts |
The VDB does not look strong enough. The V is more faint than the B.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
S is too far right to be die 1, not far enough right to be die 4, and too low to be dies 2 or 3.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10047 Posts |
I took a pic of yours and laid it as a transparency over the 4 pictures of legit ones shown. The bottom right is closest - but still way off when it comes to MM placement and size/appearance. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1796 Posts |
Aye I concur. Bad mint mark. Far too thin and not where it should be.
Not sure about the VDB. It looks weak to me, too, but I'd need to see it in-hand.
Edited by SteveCaruso 01/20/2013 4:34 pm
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United States
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