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According to Michael J. Freeman in The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain there was only one Edward VII halfpenny effigy type (but two for the penny).
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"According to Michael J. Freeman in The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain there was only one Edward VII halfpenny effigy type (but two for the penny)."
Hi! Mr.T The 2 images of the 1910 halfpenny above appear to dispute that. Any thoughts?
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I don't think my reference is the most comprehensive. http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/BBCbook.htm looks like it has more information but I don't have it. They look pretty similar to me, except the imprint on the damaged one makes the head look shorter. Or am I missing something? |
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Hi! Mr T I see glaring differences, but I have a builder's eye so I see small differences easily.
The nose is greatly different, the ear, the forehead, the top of the head, width of the neck, the attitude of the pose.
I believe these are very different effigies. Cheers darge.
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The changes in effigy of the George V halfpenny series are well documented. There is no similar documentation for any changes for the brief Edward VII series.
I'm not seeing any differences between these two effigies that couldn't be explained by the damage on one coin, and the heavy wear / weak strike on the other.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Sorry sap but with all due respect I have to say there are definite differences and not ones that any amount of PMD or post mint fabrication or massaging could possibly produce. I am prepared to stake my credibility and reputation on that. |
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Here is the same effigy without any damage sap, it doesn't negate the weak strike component of your theory of course and I don't dispute this could account for some of the difference. Not enough though in my opinion.  |
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Yeah looking at that the distance between the B and top of the head look different, and the beard might be pointing in a different direction.
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I believe the effigy on the left is the same one that is on the 1910 Australian florin designed  by George de Saules. |
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I suggest that the difference in the images is caused by distortions on the coin that was in the vice. If the pressure was great enough to superimpose images from other coins onto it, then it is likely to have been enough to make the flan spread too.
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Hi! Kevin I posted a picture of an undamaged coin with the same effigy in the 2nd post on this second page. Cheers, darge.
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The bridge of the nose appears considerably different, as does the orbit of the eye.
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It's not my area darge, but I have noted that for a couple of coins I was interested in the Museum Victoria got obverses and reverses of a couple of coins mixed up. I wonder if your example coin mightn't be a different date (or even denomination) from your halfpenny? I believe the penny for example did change in design during the reign.
Obviously, just an idea.
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07/13/2013 4:50 pm
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Surely there wasn't anyone thick enough to have such a halfarsed attempt at redesigning a foreign halfpenny for the purpose of passing it off as legal Aussie tender.
The damage sticks out like a red flag. LOL It's a penny not a half penny. The impressed coin was a half penny. When exactly did UK coinage cease to be legal tender in Australia? Presumably since the introduction of the 1911 penny there was a period when both circulated? Edited by Bacchus2
07/16/2013 02:40 am
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