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Fuzzy Reverse Of A 71 Penny?

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 Posted 01/24/2013  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list

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I suspect the reverse face was struck through a very thin, split-before-strike planchet


Probably cheating to agree with Mike Diamond, but well, I agree with Mike Diamond :)

Also, I would keep that guy. That's one of the more interesting error types you find.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Thanks so much for your expertise, now I remember why I started collecting coins. I forgot for a while but I am getting excited again!

Here are some more pictures I took. I am using my iPad's camera.

There is a sharp raised ridge around the obverse.



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 Posted 01/24/2013  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The obverse has a sharp strike and the finned rim is a clue that there might have been something else in the coining chamber besides this planchet, similar finning(excess metal extruding between the die and collar) can also be seen on coins struck on overweight planchets. A die cap or split planchet in the coining chamber along with another normal planchet could create the same finning scenario.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Is this maybe a capped die strike? Is this what you mean when you say "very thin, split-before-strike planchet"?
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 Posted 01/24/2013  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Hello Mr. Biokemist, are you saying it's sort of a mystery?
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 Posted 01/24/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
I would go with a die cap as Bio mentioned being possible.
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 Posted 01/24/2013  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
sorry, but we really need clearer pictures, or maybe a scanned image
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 Posted 01/24/2013  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Here is one from my scanner.

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 Posted 01/24/2013  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list


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 Posted 01/24/2013  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Unfortunately I think the scanner is worse than the camera.

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What do yinz think?
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 Posted 01/24/2013  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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Is this maybe a capped die strike? Is this what you mean when you say "very thin, split-before-strike planchet"?


A capped die strike will sometimes leave either a brockage(incuse mirror image from the die cap acting as a die) or a ghost outline of the die design showing through a thinning cap. The intermediate stages usually show very little detail on the affected face. I suspect that Mike Diamond's hypothesis is correct and I would base that on the relative strength of the fuzzy reverse details.

A split planchet is basically a lamination on steroids, i.e. an entire face of a planchet splits off in a thin layer. In this case, the thin split planchet would have been in the coining chamber along with a normal planchet and the reverse of your coin was struck through the split planchet. In this scenario, there would also be a thin split planchet out in the wild somewhere with the fully struck reverse design.
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 Posted 01/25/2013  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
Thanks for that bio. That is really interesting, I think I'll start looking for that split planchet...but I'm busy this weekend I guess I'll find it on Monday. : )
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 Posted 01/25/2013  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
I didn't see any quite like this on ebay, is this have good value in your opinion? Any comments are appreciated.
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 Posted 01/25/2013  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list
I'd estimate somewhere around $30, depending on how you sell it.
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 Posted 01/26/2013  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EdwardButters to your friends list
sweet, but I'm holding on to it. I think it's pretty cool
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