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New $200, $500, & $1,000 Federal Reserve Notes

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 Posted 02/08/2013  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nationals to your friends list
I think it would be awesome. When I go to Europe I always feel important having a 500 euro note in my pocket.
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 Posted 02/08/2013  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
This idea might be abused yet again by criminals with technology in the wrong hands, but perhaps these new large bills could have a radio frequency that could be picked up in airports and shipping ports.
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 Posted 02/09/2013  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fox to your friends list
Wouldn't it at least be neat if they brought back the $500, $1,000, $5,000, and $10,000 bills and only sold them at a premium to collectors that was such a high premium, that it would not be worth buying them just to spend them? Like selling a $500 bill for $1,000, and $1,000 bill for $1,500, a $5,000 bill for $8,000 and a $10,000 bill for $15,000 or something similar, and the Treasury could come out with new designs during each currency redesign for the lower denominations?

The only problem I see with this idea is counterfeiters. They would probably have a field day selling counterfeit $10,000 bills to some poor soul who can't tell a real $10,000 bill from a fake. These new $10,000 bills would have to have a secuity feature that was easy to distinguish, yet very, very hard to fake.
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 Posted 07/09/2013  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papermoney to your friends list
I would love $200 and $500 bills. They would just make large transactions at coin shows easier.
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 Posted 08/29/2013  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
These high notes should be polymer and large-sized, like mini novelty cheques. Then release some more $1 coins to the public. No new $1 bills, old ones get retired with age.

But really, I don't think this is a necessity until we start using wads of $100s in everyday life to the point that you get no coins back.

@papermoney: Can't you write your dealer a cheque?
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 Posted 09/24/2013  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list
I don't really see it happening for the aforementioned reasons of counterfeiting and similar cash-related crimes.

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 Posted 09/25/2013  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ximon to your friends list
I disagree with all the respect as to what Voshus007 has said about having no financial trouble in europe and less drug dealers. Eurozone is doing terrible, Spain, Greece, Cyprus are doing bad, much worse than US is doing now. And drug dealers, unfortunatly they're everywhere trying to get rich quickly, which doesn't work, because you get cought sooner or later, but it's something that is happening not only in US, if You read, watch, listen to european country specific news you will hear about those smugglers. But all of this is not stopping European Union's Central Bank from issuing a 500, which is not used in everyday purchases, but when it comes to buy a car for example you do not have carry a briefcase. No matter what denomination there is there will be always counterfeits, it does not makes much difference, because if a counterfeiter wants to have 10 000$ he will do it with 1 dollar bills if he has to, and find a way to make them legal or smuggle them, so it's difficult to justify not having new denomination with criminal reasons, because even if we would operate on 1$ bills only it would be still an issue unfortunatly. And the way that the value of the bills are lower than their face value there is something to be done, as our paychecks do not go with buying power of the money. One hundred dollars in 2000 could get you a full cart of groceries, now it's like 200. Even in the 80's 25 cents could get you more than now, you cannot even get tic tacs for a quarter. This shows how the value of the money went down and how much they differ from their face value, it is said, but true.
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 Posted 09/25/2013  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fox to your friends list
One thing I would like to say on the drug deal issue is is, even if we had just Half Cent coins like we used to here in the U.S. and used only those and no higher denominations, drug dealers would find a way around that. They would probably use gold, silver, etc. bullion to do their dealings, as I hear they sometimes already do.


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One hundred dollars in 2000 could get you a full cart of groceries, now it's like 200.


No, actually, this was true in the 1980s and 1990s. Nowadays, if you buy meat, you are looking at at least $300 to fill a cart with food. Which is why a not only a $200 bill, but a $500 bill makes sense as well.


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Even in the 80's 25 cents could get you more than now, you cannot even get tic tacs for a quarter


I remember in the 1980s and 1990s where you could buy tic tacs for 49 cents, which was a reason I argue to use halves now. Because you can not even get a pack of tic tacs for a dollar anymore, and those 5-stick packs of gum, that once costed 25 cents now cost 35 cents, if not more, so I argue to use halves, as at least with a half, you're getting change back, and a quarter just can't do it anymore. Even most gumball machines at stores are set up for two or even three quarters, when they should be set up to accept halves instead, because two coins equals double the chances of the machine jamming up if something goes wrong.

So, while many people here "think" I've got the wrong idea with halves, these are facts I'm speaking. The half has become a good and potential workhorse coin for the future, and the Dollar Coin Alliance agrees with me 100%, just as I agree with their argument for a dollar coin, a $2 coin, no more $1 and $2 bills, and we also agree to possibly a $5 coin and no more $5 bills and no more pennies, and possibly no more nickels.

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 Posted 09/27/2013  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list
Don't buy the government's line about drug dealers and criminals using cash as a reason to not issue larger bills. Lots of honest people prefer cash and don't want every transaction recorded.

Think about it. Why is the $100 bill of today worth less than the $20 of 1970 in spending power? Blame the biggest criminal of all - those who create fiat (unbacked by gold or silver) money out of thin air. As Ron Paul told Ben Bernanke "You're the biggest counterfeiter around."
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 Posted 09/28/2013  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list
"even if we had just Half Cent coins like we used to here in the U.S. and used only those and no higher denominations, drug dealers would find a way around that. "
that doesn't mean we should make it easier for them to do so. the harder it is the more likely you are to get caught. compare difficulties in say smuggling out 2 million Half Cent compared to a single $10,000 bill.
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 Posted 09/28/2013  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fox to your friends list

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that doesn't mean we should make it easier for them to do so. the harder it is the more likely you are to get caught. compare difficulties in say smuggling out 2 million Half Cent compared to a single $10,000 bill.


It doesn't matter how easy it is for them. We should be MORE concerned for the GOOD people who will use large denominations with GOOD intentions. I don't care if we make a one million dollar bill for drug dealers and money launderers to use. (Of course, I would never see or even hold a $1,000,000 bill) And who cares if they get caught or not? Save the space in jail for murderers, terrorists and rapists and the like, and just let the druggies have their fun for all I care.
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 Posted 09/28/2013  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list
"It doesn't matter how easy it is for them"
I beg to differ. the harder it is the more likely we are to catch them at it.
"who cares if they get caught or not? "
Me and most of the public at large id imagine, what is the point of having laws if we refuse to enforce them?
" Save the space in jail for murderers, terrorists and rapists and the like"
semi-agree. major traffickers who do it solely for profit cant be treated in a non-prison alternative. most drug offenses should result in treatment and maybe a little county jail time and not prison.
"let the druggies have their fun for all I care."
you have no idea how addictive some drugs(meth,crack,heroin,etc) are I think with all due respect. they can hit anyone too. once those addictions start and they've sold everything they own and any money they had whatsoever they will soon begin crimes like burglary and shoplifting up to robbery and murder to feed their addiction.
Some drugs I believe should be acceptable as alcohol and tobacco is and legal with reasonable restrictions.
ultimately though the criminal activity generating the money is moot imo.
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09/28/2013 05:19 am
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 Posted 09/28/2013  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
Actually, after thinking about it, I think larger bills can deter money laundering. There would be more scrutiny over $500 bills. There would be less of them which makes them easier to track. Then gangsters would want their money cleaned because they need smaller bills anyways. And think about this: would a meth-head have wads of $1,000 bills to pay for his/her habit? No. Usually a buy is under $100 and remember that drugs impoverish the addicted. So all money collected are small bills, they get gathered and used to pay the person higher on the chain. Large bills come downwards, not upwards. Expect large corporations to be the first renters of this money, and possibly it may get hoarded by them anyways.
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 Posted 09/28/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add usc96 to your friends list
The discontinuation of larger bills had more to do with the government's desire to monitor the money supply for taxation purposes than to give drug dealers a hard time, and that is the real reason we won't be seeing $500s and $1,000s anytime soon.

That being said, I would not be surprised if the US Government has to eventually move the decimal point over two places due to what is sure to be a vicious case of inflation once the populace finally recognizes just how much debt the US Government has taken on in the last decade. Think about how great it would be if a penny or a dollar actually had some buying power. If you dropped a penny, would you pick it up? If you dropped a dollar bill and the wind caught it, would you chase it? If you dropped a $10 bill and the wind caught it and blew it off an overpass, would you jump in your car and try to find your way down to the highway to risk your life to recover it?

I'm guessing the answer to all three is NO, and that speaks volumes about the current value of our money.
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 Posted 09/29/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
I think with the current situation of increasing inflation that the $500 will eventually be resurected at some point in the future, whether that be 5 years or 20 years from now. The $500 of today would have less purchasing power than the $100 did back when the large denomination notes were discontinued, so the concern of the government in detering large illicit cash transactions would not really be effected in regards to the original reasoning behind their withdrawal. Furthermore the USD has been losing out in some aspects to the Euro in that for reserve currency purposes its easier (and cheaper) to keep large amounts of euros as a reserve currency as compared to the USD because of the $500 euro note. I dont think anything bigger than the $500 will return anytime soon though , unless there is a period of hyperinflation.
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