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I wasn't considering it adding value nancyc, I actually don't care what value it has. I will just like it or I won't. It will just go in the fakes collection or the keepers collection, not much concerned either way.  I just wanted to know if the slightly wider, slightly flatter and slightly damaged at the bottom rim offered any more clues to either PMD or whatever. |
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G'day Darge, IRB are the designer's initials under the Queen's head.
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, though it could have just had a good go over with an oxy. My money is on this theory after blowing it up & studying the pic. Can't wait to find out for sure though. |
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Got the coin and not much wiser. It is interesting to say the least. If it's not PMD then it is possibly as the unicorn suggested, a planchet punched from a sheet with an area of slag. Haven't got a clue if this is possible or not, although it is theoretically possible. imo. There are quite deep troughs and low plateaus in the fields and under the legends, with the legends formed perfectly on the bottom of troughs and at the normal relief, same with parts of the effigy. (There are no areas raised beyond the normal relief) There appears to be some molten metal thus evidence of heat causing a silvery appearing metal to run and form similar streaks to the 'carbon' (sulphur) streaking of the coins enworb and I posted elsewhere. These are within the planchet though, not streaks on top. If it is PMD then it is a mix of a couple or a few different processes, because no one process could satisfy all of the evidence. Which makes very little sense, because with 20% less damage I would have paid twice what I paid. With 50% less I might have been prepared to add a zero. So if it is man made damage it is the work of an idiot. Which doesn't exclude the possibility of course. |
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Ugly, ugly picture. LOL Have to consider I could have been set up here ... the shape on the face, could be considered risqué, perhaps. I don't think so ... but someone would have suggested it, I have no doubt.   |
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If my previous posting was offensive I will remove it. Have to admit it would surprise me in this current era, but if I don't hear otherwise I will remove it 2 hours from now and apologize.
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, thats funny ! & after seeing your pic Darge I'm going back to my original answer, some sort of acid ! |
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Crikey! That's a relief, I thought I had offended everyone. Appleangel107 acid would explain some of the effects but not others. An oxy would explain some. A laser would explain a few. Judicious and skilful use of a fine chisel might explain some. There would still be unexplained areas of damage though. I'm fairly certain it has to be PMD but whoever did it doesn't know the principle of less is better, that is for sure.  |
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If my previous posting was offensive ..... Not at all Darge  |
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Darge, can you take a picture from a side angle that shows the deepest voids etc? I think appleangel might be on the money with the acid.
Always wondered what it would be like to have a Queen on acid.
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"Always wondered what it would be like to have a Queen on acid." Almost any street corner in the Cross mate. |
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Ha Ha You gave me the perfect lead unicorn. Lol I am convinced it was acid that did most of the damage now. (and probably all of it) (doff's hat to appleangel and anyone else who said the same) Asking for pictures of the lowest areas is what helped me to this conclusion. (thanks the unicorn) There is a line down the queen's nose that was throwing me but it is where the acid has eaten it down. The area that I'm speaking of is the sector with TRALI in it. This has been dropped by around half a millimetere and the outside of the nose along with it. There are small bits I still can't understand but I'm over it. |
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"Lizzie in the Sky with Diamonds".  |
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.... and here we were thinking she was wearing a tiara! A Queen with kaleidoscope eyes. |
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