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Philatelic Numismatic Combination

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 Posted 06/14/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list
I'd reckon cover. Similar to FDC (First Day Cover) not (Fleur du Coin).
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 Posted 06/14/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
I think there was a recent article in the Coin and Banknote magazine that said it was Combination but I might be remembering wrong.

Anyway, I think the PNC I have is the athletics one (it's got a runner on it).

macjxl, I'm guessing the ones you're looking for aren't official (if that's the right word)?
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 Posted 06/14/2013  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list
Mr T, you got me pondering more, so I searched the Australia Post website for PNC ....

This stamp issue features a limited edition (15,000) postal and numismatic cover (PNC).

Combination does fit though.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
Hm, that's interesting. The article at http://121.223.202.9/pa-inc/austral...l%20pncs.pdf talks about why it's combination rather than cover (which surprised me as that was the first time I'd even seen it described as a combination instead of a cover). Anyway, we all know what we mean.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macjxl to your friends list
Hey Mr T,

The term "official" has been debated to death.
I suspect a more appropriate term is "private issue".

Australia Post started producing "postal numisthingo covers" relatively late in 1994. Private companies in the land of the wrong white crowd like Nuphil & Hutt Commemoratives & seppo's like 99 Co. & Fleetwood had been producing them for decades already.

Some of my favourite PNCs were issued by a Pommie mob currently calling themselves The Westminster Collection (aka Mercury). They've been churning out PNCs like crazy - usually celebrating some royal event. The ones I favour contain gold coins, usually sovereigns, but sometimes large five pound coins. They've even released a few limited edition gold coin covers with hand painted watercolour illustrations. Collecting these has kept me poor.

East & West Germany produced PNCs containing silver coins starting around 1972. I like these too, and they are just as responsible for my poverty. :)

Getting back to the 2000 Sydney Olympics 5 dollar PNCs, a private mob called Millenium produced one & I think the Olympic Committee even produced an "official" PNC. Both of these seem to be a bit overrated IMHO. Neither are rare, & neither contain a scarce or valuable coin.
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 Posted 06/15/2013  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
I think it was always postal numismatic cover but more recently there are issues that broaden the term hence combination has started to be used. I'll try and find a link.
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 Posted 06/15/2013  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
Ok here's one. This is not technically a cover.
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 Posted 06/15/2013  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list
PP Who was the issuer of that one?

I can't find it in either the Mint nor AP info. (Mint just has a card printed with no stamp etc).

Is that a stamp or a picture of one?

Any chance of a pic of the back? (Is it a postcard?)

Cause then we can have a Philatelic Numismatic Combination Cover Card
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 Posted 06/15/2013  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
It's an official Australia Post issue. I had saved the image when it was listed for sale on the AP website. I'd have to dig back through the Stamp Bulletins to find more info (or if anyone else has them can -I might not have kept it). I'm sure there was another of the coloured air dollars sold this way too.
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 Posted 06/15/2013  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
Ah, found it AP Impressions Catalogue 2012. 4 "Stamp and Coin Sets" so they haven't called them a PNC at all but they do include a stamp and a coin. Pink Cockatoo, Flying Fox, Rosella and Kookaburra $34.95 each. Coloured RAM 1 dollar with a stamp minisheet numbered and limited to 250 each.
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 Posted 06/15/2013  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list
Thanks PP!

Geez, at those mintages I wish I had a couple tucked away.

I gave up on AP back in the early 80's when they became the releasers from heck and prices went through the floor!
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 Posted 06/15/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list
Doesn't look like they've done much from an investment point of view. Looks like hand written numbering in pvc packaging doesn't make me want to go and get one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-LAUGHI...047675.l2557
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 Posted 06/16/2013  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macjxl to your friends list
I suspect all AP coin covers (that's what pWowolians & seppo's call them) are packaged in PVC. Good one. Not.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macjxl to your friends list
Hmmmm.
This discussion board overwrote P O M G O L I A N with garbage. Is "oh em gee" politically incorrect?
Preview button is my friend I guess.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcruise to your friends list
PNC's can be a great source of income....but hey are rare and far between

I do agree the Yurralumla is no longer king but not through scarcity but through ignorance

1500 specimen strikes chills my bones far more than a 2011 remembrance strike with regular coin

But the market disagrees

PS: Did anyone notice no special release by australia post in 2012?

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06/16/2013 07:34 am
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