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Valued Member
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I see what looks like doubling on the IBER. The 3 looks questionable though. It does look like it could be a modified 2.
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you all. I guess we will try and get another opinion. The coin shop said that they couldn't verify if the date had been altered or not and that it was very rare for a 1943 to have been double struck. They were more concerned about the weight.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your best bet is to try to find out which '43 DDO matches up with that doubling on LIBERTY. A counterfeiter is probably not going to reproduce a minor variety like that. Good luck! |
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the coin shop said he couldn't verify it because of it's weight What did it weigh? |
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New Member
United States
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The coin dealer said it should weigh 3.11g but it weighed 3.9
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow 3.9 is way way over. No chance it's a copper planchet. Could be struck on a foreign planchet, you'll want to look into what other planchets went through the mint in '43 and see if anything matches up.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If the scale is accurate, that's way off.  There's something iffy about it--we should see pictures of the whole coin, obverse and reverse. Edited by DVCollector
07/15/2013 8:24 pm
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New Member
United States
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I have more pics but not sure how to put them on here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've taken the date from a certified 1943 bronze cent and put it against the OP's coin. It looks to me the "3" in the date is a different shape.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In my opinion, this is a fabricated counterfeit.
Note the double rim and the weakness of the devices (especially around the wheat stalks and LIBERTY). This coupled with a weight of almost 4 grams and how the date is formed makes it nearly impossible to be genuine.
My condolences. :-(
On the "brighter side," it is a *nice* counterfeit. :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I noticed the 4 on the date has a serif tail that's not there on the questionable coin, the other fonts I notice in the reverse "UNITED STATE" seem to be rather crude, the 2 S's in STATE don't match up against the one shown Lincoln Cent Resource site. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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SteveCaruso, I also noticed weakness in some of the lettering. The reverse almost looks like it was soaked in acid.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you DVCollector. I can see in your picture that the 3 is definitely different. That's amazing! I at least now know that it's not the real thing.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The whole coin shows an odd weakness which definitely shouldn't be true of a copper cent struck on a press set for striking steel, especially on an overweight copper planchet. The strike should be razor sharp.
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Valued Member
United States
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The thing that is bizarre is that you found it in the ground...I mean what are the chances of finding a counterfeit 1943 copper penny around an old house, lol? Seems very strange, and maybe that's all there is to it, but some additional info (like the last time that house was lived in) might shed some light on it...if that house has been abandoned for decades, it would definitely make counterfeit less likely I would think. Although all the current signs point to it being fake unfortunately. There is one other possibility, the mint during ww2 was minting coins for other countries...perhaps that 3.9 grams matches one of the coins that was being minted, and they used a 1943 steel die for testing? There were quite a few foreign coins being made I think in 1944 and after, giving the correct time frame for that.
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Posted 07/15/2013 4:56 pm
