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Are Common Date "Bu" Morgans Ever A Good Investment?

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 Posted 07/17/2013  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list
I suppose the only common date Morgan dollars worth buying for investment are the MS65 or better in deep mirror prooflike but then you would have to look at the performance of those over the last ten years to see which ones actually appreciated and how much so.

If you like the design then buy them to enjoy and let the rest work itself out over time.

I don't collect Morgan dollars per se, I buy what I need for my type sets. I do have a Capital Plastics All Mints holder filled with nicely toned coins. I also have two Capital Plastics holders for the Dollars of 1878 which I will eventually fill, one toned and one blast white for contrast just for the heck of it.

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 Posted 07/19/2013  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atchisonbj to your friends list
Right now the most common Morgans can be in the $50 to $65 range if they are MS-63 and IF and I do mean IF they aren't the same old dipped out lifeless white coins I see all the time on the coin show circuit. These common dates don't have a good investment track record. So when you are buying these you looking to build a set of Morgans with them. Which means each coin needs to be a stand alone coin. The number one thing I tell people on Morgans is DO NOT BUY A CLEANED MORGAN. There's too many of them out there and they are a problem. Your job is to make sure they remain a problem for the other guy. Now most dealers will still buy common date Morgans as just bulk BU. But if you've got a nice MS-63 that has a nice tone to it such as cherry or violet well then you've got something that dealer can sell by date and you will do better at his table. Places I would avoid buying common BU Morgan dollars from would be any large volume mail order house that lists all of their MS Morgans as BU. Professional Dealers will list a grade. MS-62, MS-63, MS-64, MS-65. Cause there can be a big difference in eye appeal. Even common Morgan's the difference in one of those grades is any easy $5 if not $10. Know what you are buying and demand professionalism.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Yesterday I looked through some raw gold, and the dealer asked if I wanted to see his slabs. Reluctantly I looked at some common date double eagles, while he was telling me that he'd had the same dates/grades through the shop uncounted times. The slab doesn't even increase his premium, though his premium does increase considerably for rarity. Presently gold stocks are good so you can pick and choose, and I'll take rarity over BU any day of the week if rarities are available.

For common BU morgan and peace dates, the major grading service slab counts are in the hundreds of thousands.
Other than for authentication, why spend the money to embalm the coin in plastic? And why pay over bullion for something that's so common, even if it is BU?
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 Posted 07/19/2013  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list
Morgans, to some (and I include me in the "some") have their own attraction - not as an investment necessarily, but as something to muse and study. The world of the VAM is a world unto itself (as SuperDave can attest I'm sure). For those of us whose brains are wired for minutia, there is nothing more satisfying than grinding through a stack of BU Morgans while looking for that "Top 100", "Hot 50", or "Hit List 40" beauty. Who knows, we might even find a new die combo (or VAM) however unlikely. Bottom line, I wouldn't dis the common ole BU Morgan - some of us might resent it!
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 Posted 07/19/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
Stopped at two stores Tuesday. Raw BU Morgans were selling for $45-50, and raw BU Peace were $35. Anything XF-AU was $26 Peace and $30 Morgan. Slabbed Morgans were $56 MS63 and $70 MS64 at both shops. I guess I need to take a trip to where dollars are selling for about the same as 90%. I was told 90% is currently selling for 20-25% over spot and they can't keep it in stock.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
Yes, BUT, only in higher grades, i.e. MS66-68. Buying in circulated through MS64 will always be tied to Spot Price.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miket to your friends list
I think most of us collect because we like coins (especially those dang Morgans). Some can afford the better ones but it still comes down to we like coins.IMHO
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 Posted 07/19/2013  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
I have to admit that there's something about a BU Morgan that just really floats my boat. I now have a couple of certified Morgans with CC mint marks that will likely be decent investments, and I also have a handful of raw PL or DMPL examples that also might end up being good investments some day. But still, the thought of having an entire bag full of crisp white Morgans that I could just run my fingers through and listen to them *clink*...
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 Posted 07/19/2013  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miket to your friends list
Amen barryg
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 Posted 07/19/2013  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
Well, get an entire bag full of crisp white Morgans that you can run your fingers trough if you want that. You asked if they were a good investment. They are, in MS66 or higher.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Well, get an entire bag full of crisp white Morgans that you can run your fingers trough if you want that.


Aw, man, did you have to mention that?
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 Posted 07/20/2013  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Someone mentioned something about when Morgans were $7, and I can remember recent buying opportunities at $10. Why oh why didn't I buy more?

It's because when I was a kid you could get them for $1. Nobody wanted them, but banks always had them around. They were heavy, clumsy and kind of dirty, and they were more money than a kid needed. Paper money was so much simpler, and because it came in higher denominations it meant being rich.

I can remember the last time you could trade silver certificates for silver coin, sometime in the mid 60's. Did I redeem all the silver certificates I could find? No...I kept them as souvenirs...

That in retrospect was pretty dumb, but it made sense at the time. The common old coins were going away, being replaced with modern money. Only much later did I realize that "full faith and credit" erodes faster than the weight of a circulating silver coin...
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 Posted 07/20/2013  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Common date BU Morgans are for collectors and if you have more than one of any date/mm you had better be collecting die varieties. The Morgans I bought in the mid seventies haven't even kept up with inflation.
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 Posted 07/20/2013  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jm20thengr to your friends list
I went to thrift shop last weekend and bought a common morgan not in BU for $28.00. I am trying to feel a Morgan Date Album. I would love to have all BU coins, but for now I am just trying to fill holes. Something about opening up a dancso and seeing missing holes gets to me. As long as I can fill the hole I'm happy. I can always go back over time and upgrade them to BU. I have a son who is 2 and half. If I can get him into the whole hobby then maybe we can start a better set together, and teach him the ways of negotation and bartering. :)
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 Posted 07/29/2013  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jake1050 to your friends list
The really nice color toned Morgan's seem to get a very large premium in all BU grades. Seems to me that the same date and grade sells for a large range of prices.
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