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1893 S Morgan Dollar PCGS Graded AU-50

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 Posted 10/26/2013  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Are you sure it's real? Lots of fake AU50 '93-S's out there in PCGS slabs these days.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrm143 to your friends list
As soon as I get my hands on it I will post pics...
Looks like the Great Collections have an ebay style setup which is nice
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 Posted 10/26/2013  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list

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Lots of fake AU50 '93-S's out there in PCGS slabs these days.


I'm not buying such high dollar coins, but what you're saying is seriously disturbing.

How good are their fake slabs?
Did you see them online? (if so, could you please share a link?).

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 Posted 10/26/2013  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrm143 to your friends list
Just registered with Great collections, very fair pricing, and nice ebay style format....
I will post pics when I actually get the coin, as long as he decides 100% he is going to sell

Thanks for the help, and will post asap
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 Posted 10/26/2013  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
supgog, you can see a bunch of fakes here;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coinfo...9692/detail/

And a couple threads on the PCGS forums pertaining specifically to '93-S's in AU50;

&threadid=901151

&threadid=899039

EDIT: Apparently, CC has some beef or something and won't let me post links to the PCGS forums. Anyway, I'm sure you can find the forum itself, the end part has the thread number, so click any thread there, and replace the last part with what is above and you should be able to find the threads. Fake slabs are all over the place these days.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
That's why I don't buy old slabs. The light blue label is easy give away.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Interesting post ... Always good to learn more

I think I would send it into PCGS to get it checked out. And get a new holder.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
Great Collections is Good. So is Teletrade. Personally I dont like (Heritage) but it's up to you. Get the coin and slab authenticated by PCGS (Get high resolution pictures and email them). Wish you the best of luck (P.S. If you're really keen on ebay try a "buy it now" format and see how it goes)
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 Posted 10/26/2013  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list
Bought many coins from Great Collections, great site, great business. More than able to handle high end coins.
If it is an elderly friend and it is part of an older collection, I wouldn't be too worried. While counterfeit coins have been around forever, counterfeit slabs are a relatively recent thing.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
One thing I thought of - don't be afraid to play the "I don't know anything about coins" card (even if it isn't true) and ask them to ensure it's a righteous slab/coin, given the talk (based on reality) of counterfeit slabs. You're aware of PCGS' slab serial number lookup, right? If not:

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/

That will affirm that the serial number assigned the slab is, in fact, assigned to a coin of the right denomination and grade. It's not an ironclad guarantee but it will eliminate the obvious fakes.
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 Posted 10/26/2013  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrm143 to your friends list
Awesome thanks super
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 Posted 10/27/2013  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list

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That will affirm that the serial number assigned the slab is, in fact, assigned to a coin of the right denomination and grade. It's not an ironclad guarantee but it will eliminate the obvious fakes.


I'd assume that if someone is sophisticated enough to fake the slab, he'll be careful enough to use an existing serial.
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 Posted 10/27/2013  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Almost all modern fakes use real serials now.
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 Posted 10/27/2013  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Almost all modern fakes use real serials now.
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 Posted 10/27/2013  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
If it were me I would try and add it to my registry set. If the number comes back as already being in a set that would be a start.
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