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 Posted 11/30/2013  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list
He asked if the coins will go up in the value, so he's talking about investment.

I prefer no to answer...
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 Posted 11/30/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lyradnoj to your friends list
Definitely maybe.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list
The candy cane and the second and third glow in the dark coins are all selling below issue on ebay currently. Flippers took a bath on the second and third Glow in the Dark coins. Many had bought upwards of ten, some were lucky to return them to the mint or CP. the caribou has yet to prove itself, it's co creator is Steven Bromberg of the coin show.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list
@ Stefanos1111

I agree with both Silveroid, arianzo and lyradnoj.

These coins are worth buying if you like them and can afford them.

They are not a real investment, but rather collection items.

Most likely you'll be lucky if they retain their value over time. Don't count on them increasing in value, in fact expect the opposite.

But nobody can be sure when it comes to predicting the weather, oops I mean future...

P.S. edited to say I agree with pocket change 50 too!
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11/30/2013 7:31 pm
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 Posted 11/30/2013  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list

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the caribou has yet to prove itself, it's co creator is Steven Bromberg of the coin show


@pocket change 50 I don't recall seeing anything that suggest Bromberg was involved in the Caribou. I couldn't find anything in another thread to that effect either.

He said on the shopping channel today that he help designing the iconic polar bear and that he had a significant portion of the mintage but he's didn't even have the caribou for sale (at least on the hour I watched).

Did he really commission both the polar bear and the caribou?
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 Posted 11/30/2013  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list
Oh sorry I had confused the 2 coins. I remember reading somewhere, maybe even this forum that 3 coins were commissioned by a dealer. He also had a hand in the pond hockey coin, and I would guess the caribou is the third one commissioned. Maybe we will learn by Monday if he helped with the concept of the third, it would seem to fit. As Steven was also responsible for the dream catcher coin. He had a great deal today that sold out. He was offering the praying mantis coin for $48 instead of $69.
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 Posted 11/30/2013  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list
Ok thanks. It could be. I hadn't heard anything about him being involved in the Pond hockey coin either.

Still haven't heard who did the Autumn Bliss. Wouldn't it be great if the Mint had a communications officer who could answer these questions....or even a whole department. lol.

edit to add: just giving it some more thought; it's odd that he said he was involved in the design of the polar bear because I think that design came from a previously released gold coin. Maybe he meant he proposed the idea to colour it and put it on a 1 oz silver coin. lol

He does tend to exaggerate quite a bit...I find myself laughing at quite a few of the things he says on air.
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11/30/2013 9:33 pm
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 Posted 11/30/2013  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lyradnoj to your friends list
Of course he exaggerates - he's a salesman!

And a pretty good one at that I'd say.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list
I got my polar bear and a couple other coins I wanted for awhile on their 5 month payment plan. This way I won't be paying interest on my credit card. It's like a short term interest free loan. I wonder how he's able to make the coins look so good. I only buy the coins that are still at issue. The others tend to be quite expensive. One example is the first 8 $20 4 $20 coins present in a beautiful mahogany box for $330 or the Calgary 1975 silver dollar with the 2012 color Calgary's quarter for $69. Also during the Christmas shopping period you can do up to 6 payments and anything over $150 is free shipping with code SHIP150.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list

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He said on the shopping channel


If he said it was dark after sundown I would check for myself. Not saying it's ALL lies, but every time the mouth moves you should assume it's at least an exaggeration.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wlouison to your friends list

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Oh sorry I had confused the 2 coins. I remember reading somewhere, maybe even this forum that 3 coins were commissioned by a dealer. He also had a hand in the pond hockey coin, and I would guess the caribou is the third one commissioned. Maybe we will learn by Monday if he helped with the concept of the third, it would seem to fit. As Steven was also responsible for the dream catcher coin.


The third coin he had commissioned is the 5 Oz. Swimming Beaver, I'm pretty sure.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list

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The third coin he had commissioned is the 5 Oz. Swimming Beaver, I'm pretty sure.


This morning, he said he 'had a hand' in the 5 oz Coronation - said it was his first. The next coin on the show was the 5 oz beaver and he made no such claim...though I've heard that rumour too.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wlouison to your friends list
Earlier this year, he did 'have a hand' in the Coronation and the Dreamcatcher, but for the November release, I'm pretty sure he 'had a hand' again for the Pond Hockey, Polar Bear and 5 Oz. Beaver. I think that's why these three, and only these three, come with a signed art card by the artist of the coin, and only if you buy them from him. The Dreamcatcher was the same way.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list
My point was that he didn't claim to have anything to do with the beaver (odd since he usually takes every opportunity to promotes himself). Maybe he did but I've seen nothing to support that other than opinions and rumours.

The Pond hockey nor the Beaver say they come with a signed card either on his website or on the TSC. Where did you see that they do?

Regardless, a signed card means nothing. It's just pure speculation to say he was involved in any meaningful way with the creation of these coins. You could be right (or not). I really don't know, but if someone has information from a hard and reputable source, please share it.
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 Posted 12/01/2013  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wlouison to your friends list
On the actual show he was showing signed cards for all three items, each time that they appeared. For that reason I just assumed that he had some input in them or some involvement in the process.

The beaver does show a signed card: http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/T...nav=R:512690

And for the Pond Hockey, in the description it says:
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This coin is accompanied with an art card hand signed by artist Richard De Wolfe, an exclusive bonus to The Shopping Channel


I just assumed that when they come with the art card, which is exclusive to Steven Bromberg's sales, that he has some input in the creation process. But you're right, it is just pure speculation. And it fits with the Mint's release that 3 coins from the November issue were commissioned by dealers. It would be nice for them to explain which coins and by which dealers. I guess that explains why the Polar Bear appeared to be so 'hot', because Bromberg probably got a decent chunk of the mintage to sell since he commissioned them.

And, here's one more connection - which may be unrelated. On Bromberg's CDN C&C website he is doing a Christmas giveaway/draw type thing. The prize: Swimming Beaver 5 Oz., Iconic Polar Bear 1 Oz., Pond Hockey 1 Oz. and the Dreamcatcher coin.

I just wish we didn't have to do so much 'speculating'. The Mint should just make all of this known.
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