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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The seller in the first post has two new listings for counterfeit Canada coins. He is not learning. Item# 141147927066/141147925389. They also have plated LOTR coins that I've seen on aliababa site. I'd like help reporting these auctions please. |
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United States
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Are fantasy coins permitted on ebay?  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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For what it's worth, it does appear that there are SOME legitimate RCM/Bank of Canada issue coins and notes on aliexpress, such as that $20 polymer note and $20 for $20 Whale/Iceburg coin (priced at $33.95 per coin).
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I reported the auctions I listed yesterday, and today an email from ebay they checked the persons auctions and removed all but one. I used the forum link and it worked real fast. I'm impressed an email, I never got an email from ebay for all the other auctions I reported using the link in the ad. Also in the world forum there's a post by a ebay community watch member, needing input into the various definitions of counterfeit and how it impacts collectors. Example he uses the difference between counterfeits of the 19th century vs today's. some people collect the ancient and old counterfeits. Should they be in the ban with the modern ones? Check the post out, it's actually a poll. It's under world Commemerative forum by swamper bob title should properly described counterfeits be allowed on ebay. Edited by pocket change 50
12/24/2013 4:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Even if the item is disclosed as a replica on the website, it should also be permanently marked on the product itself. There is too much temptation to resell these as the real McCoy. It should not be allowed. I'm sure if the whole world exported fake Renmibi Yuan to Chinese seaports they wouldn't like it one bit. I'm watching this British documentary on YouTube, and the Chinese counterfeiters justify their actions that the world's empires have gotten involved in China and completely tried to take over their economy (i.e. British Empire with the Opium Wars, plural). I can get their reasoning, but at the same time they are exploiting their population in the factories, using desperate unskilled people from poor backgrounds, and they "employ" children, as well. It's wrong all around.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Get this Boxing Day I reported 3 different sellers for selling fake Canada titanic coins. I just received ebay replies. They yanked ads from 1 seller. The other 2 were deemed ok because they were listed in the fantasy listings. How does this work? They can still be passed off as real by the next seller. They said they weren't really coins. How can you. Have 2 different results on the same product? Is this some kind of loophole ? |
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Canada
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For ebay it's all $$$$$$$$$$$$$ .I'm sick of reporting and they do nothing  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Are they actually fantasy coins, or only listed as such?
A coin is a coin if it has been coined, meaning struck with 3 dies. If it isn't die struck it's not a coin, it's just a piece of metal. It's the difference between a pipe and a picture of a pipe.
So if a "coin" or disc displays a known design, how can you call it a fantasy piece when it's based on a real item?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I reported counterfeits of Canada's 50 cent titanic coin that has Fiji instead of 50 cents only detail that's different. Also the counterfeit of Tuvalu's $2 coin, the $2 was the only thing missing. Now these coins were under fantasy / exomunia. Or however you spell the category these were determined to be fine listed as titanic coins. I just don't under stand Judith's thinking about these coins. I'm sure a buyer could try reselling as the real thing. People someone explain how the category makes a difference? There's a Carolina seller selling tons of these titanic coins. When I have time I'll put up some of his auction numbers.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I just finished posting over in the Main Forum thread: Poll regarding should properly described counterfeits be allowed on ebay? Please go over there and make your voices heard by voting! Swamper Bob is looking for input on developing a new simple ebay policy. He's an individual who works with ebay informal as part of a team to get ads pulled to forgeries. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Auctions 231117207306 , 141028674927, 231121646895, 251406447245, 221339902855, 111238793578, 121242029909, 111244110736 . This last seller is quite disturbing as he sells lots of silver clad coins along with boat loads of titanic coins. Just look at his sales history, and same with the English seller, they are exempt according to ebay because of listing in the fantasy category. I just don't get this, the real counterpart coins exist. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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All the reporting of these ebay sales are great, but to end the Canadian fakes you need the cooperation of the RCM. Untill the RCM takes serious actions this issue will get worse, its just beyond common sense that a company knowingly allows their product to be counterfeited and openly sold, we must put pressure on the RCM. ebay has a problem with the US HOBBY ACT which allows for clearly marked copy coins to be sold, but with some pressure from the TPG, they too are revising the act I believe |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Like I said ebay it's all $$$$$ |
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Canada
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Come on guys send a letter to the RCM this is not gunna take care of itself. Posted this here today to try and keep this topic up front in your face, current. |
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