Counterfeit Maple Leafs And Other RCM Products

@ Silveroid, Section 450 of Canada's criminal code makes it an offense to sell or own any coin stamped replica or copy, according to articles I read on Mike Marshall this applies worldwide. Google mike Marshall or counterfeit Canadian coins, there are some well written articles going back to 2h009. Apparently Mike has been recognized by receiving several awards for his work shutting down counterfeits from being sold on ebay. Way back he was responsible for having 6 Chinese counterfeiting companies booted off of ebay. He also educated ebay San Hose and the RCMP to the implications of these fakes! He gets many ebay auctions taken down. I wish Mike would share some pointers with CCF members. Collectors need to read these older articles! I know many people believe it's up to the RCM to take action. However, until they can be convinced to do something, all we have is a grass roots movement.

I was angered by Rush 112 comment" it's nice to see so many people doing the RCM's job for free." This was after I had posted several auctions, needing reporting for selling Chinese counterfeits, on my old thread regarding fake Robins & Ducks. Mike would post there occasionally. We collectors need to pick up the slack,when we can; otherwise in time our collections will become truly worthless. Once the average person becomes too fearful to buy any coins with confidence, who will buy the coins when it's time to sell. I know many collectors never intend to sell, but one day it's guaranteed to happen,either you or your heirs will sell. Yes, it's not right we are doing the RCM's work for them, however, what can we expect for a government organization. Pressure must be brought to bare on the mint! Do we need to publicly shame them, I don't know? As collectors we should be bombarding the Minister in charge of the RCM. Make it his problem, politicians don't like to be publicly embarrassed. The mint has promoted their security measures on common change, how about something for Nclt coins. We can also make waves for the RCMP 's counterfeit division, by contacting the Justice Minister. When are elections due to happen? Like the saying goes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Sitting back and saying, I can't have an effect, or no change will take place! Just think of the thousands of dollars spent yearly at the mint by collectors, it has an effect on the governments and our economy's bottom line. How is the mint a world leader, when it permits it's products to be counterfeit the world over?

Here is a poll on counterfeits on ebay posted by an ebay worker as to whether they should be allowed.

https://goccf.com/t/165214&whichpage=1

there are some crazy items on aliexpress. Many goods are legit and proper quality, many are not (I wouldn't risk buying coins or bring in any of the "copies" or "replicas"). Then there are things like this; current price for 5 new polymer $20 bills with their store discount brings the total to $94.44us including shipping to Canada :scratchhead
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cana...7127368.html

I just had a look at aliexpress, WOW! Canadian currency, just released 2 weeks ago. They have all denominations, plus older notes as well. When I looked up Canadian coins 29 pages came up, with 36 items each all Canada products. They have a feedback system, where people rate/leave comments - beside each comment is your country's flag. A lot of Canadian's are ordering from the site. I counted at least 58 1948 silver dollars being brought into the country. They show how many of each item you order.

I wonder what the Bank of Canada, would say or do when shown the new polymers? The Minister of Finance needs to be shown these new high tech banknotes. It's just unfathomable to me, countries turn a blind eye to it!! The Chinese are taking over the world and not through old fashion warfare. They've come up with a better tool, economic warfare! While the US/CA/ UK and other developed nations, are off fighting physical wars, the Chinese are perfecting their weapon of mass destruction. What type of world is my son inheriting? The thing is, it's happening right under our very noses!!

The seller in the first post has two new listings for counterfeit Canada coins. He is not learning. Item#141147927066/141147925389. They also have plated LOTR coins that I've seen on aliababa site. I'd like help reporting these auctions please.

For what it's worth, it does appear that there are SOME legitimate RCM/Bank of Canada issue coins and notes on aliexpress, such as that $20 polymer note and $20 for $20 Whale/Iceburg coin (priced at $33.95 per coin).

Even if the item is disclosed as a replica on the website, it should also be permanently marked on the product itself. There is too much temptation to resell these as the real McCoy. It should not be allowed. I'm sure if the whole world exported fake Renmibi Yuan to Chinese seaports they wouldn't like it one bit. I'm watching this British documentary on YouTube, and the Chinese counterfeiters justify their actions that the world's empires have gotten involved in China and completely tried to take over their economy (i.e. British Empire with the Opium Wars, plural). I can get their reasoning, but at the same time they are exploiting their population in the factories, using desperate unskilled people from poor backgrounds, and they "employ" children, as well. It's wrong all around.