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Bedrock of the Community
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These are always a challenge. Gotta go by the reverse. First thought was 35 details. Hopefully it will clean up for ya.
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this is what I would do since your not sure of the acetone dip time. Get a copper cent you can exsperiment on and go from there. Then your comfortable dip your 22D in and maybe take a q-tip and ROLL it very gentle and slow over the red stuff and see if it starts to come off and continue the process. Or just sell it as is someone on here would take it off your hands for the right price like myself lol
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Can't thank everyone enough for the responses. My first battle was convincing myself that it was a no D die 2. The reputable auctioneer graded it as that, so I do have recourse if push comes to shove. The Strong Reverse is pretty much the clincher, because like I said above, the only die that had a Strong Reverse is the #2...and it's definitely strong reverse....reverse is stronger than obverse. BTW the auctioneer had it graded as Fine, and I'm sure it's better than that. How much better? Thanks again, and when I receive the coin I'll be able to get a much better look at it and make a plan and take some good pictures. Darn all this great photography......makes the red spots look REALLY BIG, while in hand they're probably really small.  |
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Good luck and keep us posted would like to see some pics before and after you get the what looks like gum off. Or you can soak it in olive oil for a few weeks and that wont do any damage to the coin or take any color away from the coin.
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 that the reverse red spots are very distracting ... likely genuine however with a details grade. Let us know how your acetone attempt works. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Or you can soak it in olive oil for a few weeks Do NOT put it olive oil. It will do more harm than good. |
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Now I'm a little leary of the Die 2 status. The second "2" looks a little weird. But it's definitely a strong reverse. As long as there is no D, and it has a strong reverse it HAS to be a type 2. Anybody want to play devils advocate and try and convince me otherwise? :-) Even if it's a no D 'weak' reverse I could still probably make a few bucks.
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The red goo almost looks like candle wax.
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That would be nice if it were candle wax. I think the fact that the lighting in the photo is coming from about 10 or 11 o'clock, it's making the second 2 look fatter because of the glare on the left side of the 2. The second 2 should be crisper and slightly skinnier than the first 2, and both of these look the same in the photo. No way to really tell 'til it's in hand.
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Do NOT use olive oil on this coin. I wish people would stop recommending oil on coins. Olive oil contains corrosive acids which will damage the surfaces, alter the color and ruin a copper coin. I've seen it a thousand times. If you're not comfortable with conservation techniques, I would NOT attempt it. This is potentially a very valuable coin and the conservation is best left to the pros like NCS. I've seen many people absolutely ruin a coin by listening to BAD internet advice. Don't let it happen to you. If you decide to do anything, ALWAYS follow the solvent polarity ladder. Read: http://www.lincolncentresource.net/....php?t=24220 |
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Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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So get this.....I had a couple of questions about the coin which I won yesterday, so I called the auction. Ended up speaking to the owner of the auction, and we went over this coin with a fine tooth comb. BadThad, you helped because you noticed the very weak TRUST, and I definitely had questions about the outside "2." After careful review of the coin he agreed that it didn't look like a Die 2 obverse, and that he even saw some junk where the mint mark should be. BINGO!! I'll almost guarentee that it is a Weak D that someone tried to remove. That's why the reverse and obverse don't agree. He said that he would send it out to NGC for authentication. He said I could even have the slab if it verifies.....can't ask for more than that.
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Sorry about the bad advice on the oil I had no idea it was that bad for coin conservation. @BadThad thanks for all the helpful information and the link.
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Yes, I've used The Lincoln Cent Source to learn about these. It confirms that the ONLY possibility for a Strong Reverse is the Die 2. So the only real question for NGC (besides Details, Environmental Damage, etc,) is, "Is it a Strong Reverse or not"? And the other side of that statement is, 'If it is a Strong Reverse, it HAS to be a Die 2 no D,' and CAN"T BE ANYTHING ELSE regardless of what the obverse looks like unless someone altered the date on the coin. Does anybody think it might be a Weak Reverse with full wheats etc? I've never seen one. Hope I didn't talk myself out of a nice coin. He had the raw coin in front of him and I only had average photos. I'm not a big gambler though and I think my questions were legit. Ed Edited by edweather
12/18/2013 8:53 pm
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