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Ordered An Unc Roll And Got A Proof Roll Of Silver Quarters.

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 Posted 01/23/2014  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list
I ordered 90% silver dimes from Provident recently and received a combination of circulated dimes and modern proofs. I think they just grab whatever is handy when they're selling it as 90% silver.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list

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All things being equal, am I better off with the proof roll?


All things are not equal. You ordered a product of lesser value and received a product of greater value. Nothing equal here.

The right thing to do would be to call the company you purchased the coins from and ask them what they would like to do. Obviously you should incur no additional costs for correcting their error but if you had received a product of lesser value than you paid for I am sure you would be calling them and asking for them to send you the correct product.


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Just wanted to make sure I didn't get the shorter end of the stick. Apparently I didn't.


I originally thought you were asking the forums advice on what the right thing to do was in this situation. From your later comments it appears that you were just making sure you weren't the one that was getting ripped off in this situation.

I am not trying to lecture anyone so please do not take it that way. I am just giving you my opinion and one that I think most of the forum members would agree with. What would you want someone to do in your situation if you were the seller that made the mistake?
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 Posted 01/24/2014  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
^^

There really is not a significant difference in value. Like the others said, if you had your heart set on Unc quarters, send them back. If not keep them.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list

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I think I paid about $185 for the roll. The order was from a large company similar to an APMEX type. I figure they knew what they were doing.....possibly ran out of unc rolls or something. I see APMEX is selling proof rolls for about $220 or so.


By his own admission there is a $35 dollar difference in price and a simple search of APMEX shows they sell the two products in question at a price difference of $195 and $225 so that is a $30 difference. Everyone's definition of "significant" is subjective but that isn't really the point.

I love all these threads that get posted asking for support in doing the wrong thing. The right thing to do is usually very clear. What you can get away with and sleep at night is where things differ and only you as an individual can answer that for yourself.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
The point is it's not enough of a difference for you as the consumer to waste your time and effort to correct.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list

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The point is it's not enough of a difference for you as the consumer to waste your time and effort to correct.


BS - I am sure you would pickup the phone and make call or send an e-mail if you were on the short end by $30.

As I said before, there is no legal obligation to do anything. That doesn't mean there isn't a moral obligation. Assuming you have morals.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I agree that you should contact the seller about this. Yes you may have come out ahead but unless your planning on selling them, you really don't gain anything. You received something you didn't want, didn't get what you wanted, didn't get what you paid for, so why not at least contact them about it all. Look at it this way. What if you made that mistake? Would you just say oh well to bad? And what if the person at that company gets into trouble for making that mistake? What if he or she looses their job?
So simple to just contact them about this. Get what you really wanted and possibly just give back what you don't really want anyway.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Gosh, very interesting discussion. I never even gave it a second thought as being a moral dilemma. I was 95% sure the company knew what they were doing with my order, and that they were 100% ok with THEIR decision. My only original question was if I was getting a lesser value, strictly from a business view because I was thinking of eventually reselling them. I never had any moral question about what I was doing. But after reading some of the posts I have decided to call the company and make them aware of their mistake. It can't hurt. Thanks to everybody for all the points of view, it made a difference. Will call them right now and report back.

edit: OK, just got off the phone with Provident Metals. I explained the situation, and he did some checking and said that 90% of the quarters that they are shipping are proof quarters. He tried to tell me I was getting a better value (probably don't get many calls from people with errors in their favor,) but I explained to him that I actually wanted the BU quarters and not the proofs, and that I had 2 more orders in the system with BU rolls ordered. So he put me on hold for quite a while and said that he did put a request in to the vault that my next 2 orders have no proof quarters. He further explained that they way they see it, proof falls under the category of unc.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list


I highly doubt they did that on purpose. But with that said, if they ask you to return it they should pay shipping both for the return and the sending of the correct item which will likely make the difference so negligible that THEY will choose to allow you to keep what you received if that is acceptable to you. I am interested to see how they handle the situation. Always nice to learn about a companies customer service department, only really matters how good they are when things are wrong and they are tasked with correcting it.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
OK, he got a product worth $30 more than he ordered. It would be good for him to contact the dealer and let him know what happened, But if I was the dealer and I was looking at having to pay the shipping and insurance to have them returned and then to send the replacement roll, I would be losing most of that $30 anyway. So I would tell him if he is happy to just keep the proof roll.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
I just spoke to the seller, I edited my last post up-thread and added the conversation. Thanks. Ed
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 Posted 01/24/2014  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list
I agree 100% Conder101. I would imagine that most, if not all, sellers would do just that. But as the seller I would like to be aware of the error so I could look into how it happened and what could be done to prevent it in the future.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list
Thanks for the update edweather. I am not surprised that they were ok with you keeping them but I find it extremely odd that they treat them the same. I order from Provident occasionally and never really noticed but they don't seem to have proof rolls listed for sale so they must. You learn something new everyday. I wonder if it is because they are primarily a bullion seller and not a coin company? I know APMEX sells them at different prices.
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01/24/2014 11:12 am
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 Posted 01/24/2014  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
True.

Not a bad price if you want proof rolls, and I think they are one of the free shipping items too, if I'm not mistaken.
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 Posted 02/03/2014  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
OK, well, it's official. If you want a proof roll of silver quarters at an unc roll price....order to your hearts content from Provident. I just got my latest order, and despite my best efforts, the recent roll is proof also. On the packing slip it states in 2 different places that customer would like BU and not proof.

Also just got my order from APMEX. They DID send uncs as ordered. Can't wait to go search the uncs.
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