Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Questionable Toning?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 3,157Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Sulfur is actually the usual suspect with toned silver, natural or otherwise, just not in the kind of concentration one would imagine being dipped in it would achieve.
Valued Member
United States
415 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Copper Penny Connection to your friends list
Most of you are right, It is sulfur toned. HOWEVER not in a dip process, because liquid, or even clumped/powdered sulfur will leave tell tale signs on both sides of coin.....What you have instead, is a coin treated with sulfur gas. I have been experimenting with it myself to protect myself from doctored coins, but the problem is, the results can be pretty amazing. furthermore, no 2 coins have been identical. So the smallest factors (like all chemistry) can make a difference in the final product.
Matt
Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list

Quote:
The process likely involved....enhancing....the normal toning process with heat.

I officially nominate SsuperDdave for Most Delicately Worded Statement Of The Year.

I remember a similar thread at least a year ago. The coin in that one had comical, horrendous "bullseye" toning with seemingly radioactive, almost neon colors that made
you want to wear OSHA-approved eye protection. The OP asked if it might possibly be artificial toning and one poster replied by saying "BLOWTORCH! BLOWTORCH!"

This Hercules and the Nymphs coin isn't (comparatively) all that bad. I think it's actually kind of nice looking. Just a personal opinion, but... I think playing toning games with
authentic silver coins isn't cool and that games of that sort should be played with generic silver rounds.
Pillar of the Community
United States
3453 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
Surprisingly the enhanced toning does not bother me; I rather like it and I am not usually a fan of AT. If it were mine, my concern would be what it will progress to.


Quote:
I officially nominate SsuperDdave for Most Delicately Worded Statement Of The Year.
True dat, FF!

Copperpennyconnection, interesting note there. I for one would be interested in seeing what your results have been.
Valued Member
United States
110 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
Check it closely for a mintmark, probably "A" for Alamogordo or "T" for Trinity.
Pillar of the Community
United States
3453 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
Is that the A under the wreath?
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
And naturally there is that problem of exactly what is AT. For example if that coin was left in a place where a toning type gas was present, is that AT? If it was placed in that invironment purposely, then that should make it AT? Sort of like if you dropped a coin in a pile of dirt by accident where Sulfur is present. Find it a year later and it is now all tomed. Is that AT? I've always thought that AT and NT are just terminology and it is at times impossible to really know the difference. So although this one appears to have been in a gas oven for a while or sitting on top of a raw, hardboiled egg, it may have happened by accident.
However, what would you call it if done by someone that has been eating eggs, Italian beef samdwhiches with hot pepper, beer and now breathed on that coin?
I've met so many people with breath like that I suspect many toned coins are just from being near them.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

Quote:
Check it closely for a mintmark, probably "A" for Alamogordo or "T" for Trinity.


Pillar of the Community
United States
3453 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list

Quote:
Check it closely for a mintmark, probably "A" for Alamogordo or "T" for Trinity.



Feeling kind of thick right now, what did I miss?
Pillar of the Community
Canada
2805 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
Location and name of the first atomic bomb test.
Pillar of the Community
United States
3453 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
*head-desk* I wish I could say brain freeze but it think it might be early dementia...
Valued Member
United States
110 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list
My fault. I should've used a Smiley icon, but I hate the little freaks.

It creeps me out being in a little box on a chat board with one of them, like being in an elevator with a clown (insert smiley here).

-Duncan
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You are going to fit in just_fine here, Duncan.

Consider me to have used a smiley at the end of that sentence.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
1890 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list
I like that coin and its coloring a lot and I'm not at all convinced it's AT.
I have non-USA coins of similar vintage with similar coloring that I *know* were not meddled with in any way, just stored for a long time in undisturbed environment that somehow contributed to the unusual toning.
If that coin were available at a fair price, I'd snap it up.
That's a fairly common year/mint for that 5 franc piece, so I'd say if you find the coloring objectionable, search around a bit for a nice un-toned one and trade me the 'ugly one.
Pillar of the Community
United States
522 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2014  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny676767 to your friends list
I actually like it too. As I said, in hand the colors don't jump out and are noticable only when tilted. However, what happens as the toning progresses? I assume it will just turn black. How soon? I guess that depends on storage conditions and what I eat.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 3,157Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.32 seconds to rattle this change. Forums