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2000 Quarter Struck On Cent Planchet, Value Help Please?

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 Posted 02/05/2014  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
I would like to see pictures of the edge and accurate thickness measurements. It looks kind of odd to me and I don't understand how this could leave the mint, especially in 2000.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
The colour concerns me as dose the rim. A 25 cent piece heated by grinding would discolour similar to pic.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
^^^ Agreed ^^^ Although I didn't know the part about grinding causing discolouration. I thought it may have been painted.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Hadn't really focused on the potential for it being a forgery...shame on me! It does look odd...but does the cupping at the bottom...kind of like a normal off-centre...suggest it may be real? Jamie 212, the lighting of the picture is a little hard to interpret...is the coin cupped with the obverse sticking out? Can we see the edge?
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 Posted 02/05/2014  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamie212 to your friends list
I will try to post up more pictures I did bring it in to more then one coin shop to see what they think, I was told that there is no doubt that it is a 25 cent die and that in those years the mint were making a lot of coins which makes it a little harder to narrow down the right planchet. but as for the planchet it seems to have a 25 cent edge on one side and it is copper.

I was told a couple things could have happened such as it being to small when it was struck so possibly squeezing the rest of the edge and the other thing I was told is it may have been to big and when forced down cut part of the rim off. I was also told usually that would jam the machine and coins like that do not generally leave the mint it is to big to fit in a 1 cent roll and smaller than a 25 cent.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
I have a 2000 pride 25 cents struck on a copper planchet in a ANACS slab, this coin has the 25 cent coin ridge and looks like the size of a penny. Your coin is cool, look into Mr. Glassfords error website and try to match up the foreign planchet , you also need a xrf to find the composition of this coin
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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
My guess is its real although odd. The dark brown coloring on both sides are in line with each other, where the most pressure was on both sides.


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and it is copper.

No copper pennies in 2000 if its copper wouldn't it have to be wrong planchet or a four year old penny? Did you weigh it?
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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
oh you did weigh it.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Sorry, correction a copper colour planchet, the holder says wrong planchet, good luck with your coin.
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 Posted 02/05/2014  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamie212 to your friends list
yes it was weighed on a 1/100 gram scale and it was 2.44 grams and on a small digital scale 2.43 grams
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 Posted 02/14/2014  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
I think I figured this one out. The planchet is likely for a 2000 Ecuador One Centavo. I also noticed that it sold recently for about $4300 USD / $4700 CDN. It looks like the market for Canadian error coins is quite healthy at the moment.
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 Posted 02/14/2014  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Its a little heavy for a penny and a little light for a centavo, apparently the centavo is made of brass and this coin appears to be copper... http://www.coinscan.com/for/ecu.html
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 Posted 02/14/2014  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
You're right, I mixed up brass and bronze. The Wikipedia page indicates some were issued in a copper colour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuado...entavo_coins

I assumed the difference in weight may have been due to a small amount of the coin being sheared off when it was struck. Are there any possibilities which are more plausible?
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02/14/2014 02:10 am
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 Posted 02/14/2014  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
As far as I understand die's don't shear. lol
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 Posted 02/14/2014  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list
I'm new to coins and admittedly don't know much about the coining process compared with most.

A 2000 Barbados One Cent weighs 2.5g and is 19mm (copper plated zinc). I found a 2006 searching pennies today and it weighed 2.49g.

I couldn't find a foreign coin minted by the RCM in 2000 that matches up.
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02/14/2014 03:21 am
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