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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks all. You have added to my knowledge of what could cause this condition. I was never interested in bidding on this coin as I do not like it's appearance at any price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Kinda looks like it's been through a fire. Definitely not natural.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Kinda looks like it's been through a fire. Definitely not natural. I think so too. However, the date does appear to have some acid treatment done too. Regardless, this is sure one ugly coin. Sort of looks sick. I think I'd be afraid to touch it just, in case.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Serious big time environmental damage but has not been "restored". It's the type of coin that if you were to take it in to a coin shop and try to sell it they would politely say "it doesn't work for us, but thanks for showing it to us and please have a nice day". You could walk it around a coin show and get offers ranging from $5 to $50 along with a lot of "thanks, but no thanks". Hole filler at best.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Definitely a pass on the '13-S.' If YOU see something wrong with it, everyone else will see it too. Save your money until an 'honest' example is found. A lesson that took me years to learn.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's my theory...vinegar treated and then heated up. It has the vinegar look to it and also has that exposed to high heat look.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Environmental damage and CLEANED, perhaps harshly, to remove the ED.
I've had a few of these myself that were dark and pitted and I managed to remove the dark, but not the pitting. It was probably pretty dull at some point and then polished. Then it toned or was made to tone.
If this guy was auctioning it he might get somewhere in the neighborhood of $100-150. You'd have to be loopy to give him his $375 asking price.
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I was hoping WeerdSteev was going to wade in on this. 
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I wouldn't want the coin either, but I think y'all are being a but harsh. It is an "original date" and it does have a full horn. It's been through some stuff, but in the realm of bad, it's not that bad. One poster said "5-50 dollars"...do you have any idea what an original date 13-s type 2 looks like to be worth 5-50. I saw one once and it had half of one digit of date left, zero horn, was black and pitted except for the bad green corrosion on the surface....and it may have been slightly bent (couldn't tell for sure). I believe it went for $28 in a true auction.
I think if this coin were put up for a true auction, someone is going to see the full date, the full horn...and the generally XF details (while pitted and strangely colored) and it it will get bid up into the 200s.
I think this coin sells for 100-150 if it was restored, Steve.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Soak a buff in vinegar and salt for a few days and you get that exact look. Heat was definitely applied.
* oh you'll also get a full date and full horn.
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Edited by 52Raymo 03/31/2014 9:40 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I agree with 52Raymo.. My guess is a ground find that was vinegar soaked to clean it and then artificially toned. Get a few no date Buffalo nickels, soak them in vinegar for a month or so and you get a very similar look.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm with hesgut on this one. The reverse has way too much depth in the detail to be restored. I think the obverse suffered severe environmental damage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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With regard to the question of whether it's been restored: I doubt it, and if it was, it was then polished\whizzed to remove the dullness. Whether it was or wasn't, this much is true: It didn't need to be. Restoring "restores" lost detail. This nickel still had plenty of detail including, most importantly, the date. I'm thinking that at some point in its life its obverse was flush up against something very smooth (and possibly metallic) with moisture and minerals present between the two. The reverse fared much better for reasons unknown - possibly because it was up against a much lighter, or porous substance...or just air.
I guess it could auction for more than $150. Heck, I've auctioned restorations of this date and received more than $150 for them, so why not? I just always figured that crazy stuff like that was because of the full moon.
***edited for punctuation***
Edited by weerdsteev 04/01/2014 10:07 am
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New Member
United States
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it looks like it has been acid treated. look at the area around the date.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I had an 13-S T2 that I nic a dated. I put it out in the case with a $100 price tag and it sold within 3 days. So I'm in agreement that $5 to $50 it way low.
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