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Marius Or Victorinus?

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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I don't really know how the coins were struck. Would they have a batch of portraits ready to be struck with the legend?
Quick change of rulers, they would probably just change the legend, strike and ship them out. Possibly they thought that the portraits were similar enough that it didn't matter. Maybe the army needed to be paid in a hurry and they didn't want to waste time melting down the "out of date" emperor coins.

To be honest Ben, I don't think that the portrait on your coin looks like my Marius. Is there any image on wildwinds to compare?
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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
PP, I think if you take a look at how strict the mints liked to be, this type of coin would not be sent out easily, hence 'rare * 3'
After all, they liked to see the office, not just the mint on coins so they could trace back errors, the Roman office did not take prisoners!
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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
IMO it is clearly Victorinus.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
I agree with Ron, it looks standard to me. I admit, lots to learn here, but pretty sure on this one.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Well, I must retire now, not had a break since thursday. Will watch this post with interest, as always, keen to learn!
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 Posted 04/18/2014  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I did read somewhere that there were unscrupulous operators who were issuing coins to make money on the side. I suppose they could be responsible for pinching a batch of out of date coins.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
That's a possible PP, but very, very rare. Besides, there is nothing that is visible on the coin pics that is out of caricature to suggest this. At least, not that I can see. If this was to be the case, I would have to list a fair amount of coins as rare or at the least uncommon. Probably a case of the eye of the beholder, no?
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 Posted 04/19/2014  06:32 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Found this example from a past auction Ben, How strange looking is that one!



Marius-Or-Victorinus?
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 Posted 04/19/2014  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Kev that is a really useful bit of info to keep with both my Marius and Victorinus specimens, thanks.
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 Posted 04/19/2014  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Ben, what is the reverse of your coin?
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 Posted 04/19/2014  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Interesting opinions, looks like I need to reevaluate the bust.

The reverse is AEQVITAS. Ill take some pictures myself in a bit - thats the sellers image.
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 Posted 04/19/2014  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Wildwinds RIC41 Victorinus (Marius portrait) also has AEQVITAS on the reverse. Could do with larger pics of yours and also wildwinds to compare.
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 Posted 04/19/2014  11:55 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Even when you get it in hand if it does turn out to be Victorinus it's still a very interesting collecting topic and one that I had not thought about before.
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 Posted 04/19/2014  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Here we go. Picture of both sides of the supposed Marius. I've also included a picture of the whole set.

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Marius-Or-Victorinus?
Marius-Or-Victorinus?

Im seeing the questionableness of it now...

Heres some pictures of higher grade exmaples:

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 Posted 04/19/2014  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list
I don't see the original coin as looking anything like Marius, except for being Gallic. There are Tetricus portrait coins that look more like that than Marius.
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