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1856 Fec, Is This A Fake?

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 Posted 05/09/2014  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
It's a fake. Hope you didn't spend too much on it.
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 Posted 05/09/2014  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
you beat me to it fuzzy317
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 Posted 05/09/2014  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
I agree with thw others the coin is a fake. Aside from the font, the eagle's head is also slightly off the original deaign and the coin retains way too much luster for this grade, furthermore the uneven wear between the reverse and obverse is obverse is sign of counterfeiting.
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 Posted 05/09/2014  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jon Brand to your friends list
Is the head to skinny? I am not sure what is different about the eagles head, but that might be what I am seeing.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j-win to your friends list
If someone was going to drop alot of money on a 1856, you'd think they'd know exactly what they look like, right? Even if you didn't know, just a couple seconds of looking at a side by side with a genuine 1856 would be all you need. It would be downright ridiculous to blame anybody but the buyer IMHO.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjspearsdog to your friends list
I did not purchase the coin just came across it when I was browsing an auction. I could never afford one and a big red light went off when I saw this one for $200 with one day of bidding left. I own a 1857 and 1858 (well-worn for sure) and realized that there isn't even a slot in my folder for a 1856. lol
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 Posted 05/10/2014  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
The date is the biggest giveaway. I also notice the legends aren't the right style for 1856.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list
If someone owned an 1856 Flying Eagle cent in MS condition, this one is likely MS63, then it would be:

A. Slabbed by PCGS or NGC
B. NOT in a Cardboard 2x2 [Edit: especially not a torn, dingy one]
C. NOT on ebay for a few hundred dollars. Likely on Heritage for tens of thousands.

Whether it looks real or not, something just wouldn't be right...
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05/10/2014 5:19 pm
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 Posted 05/10/2014  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
As stated, this is a coin you NEVER buy raw..I don't care how reputable the person selling it is.
As for this coin, yes it's fake.
The numerals of the date are all wrong and too large.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjspearsdog to your friends list
Up to $1600 with 2 hrs left
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 Posted 05/11/2014  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjspearsdog to your friends list
1856 Flying Eagle cent
Lot # 112
MS 61
Sold for: $ 4,700.00
to a****l
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 Posted 05/11/2014  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list

That buyer paid $4700 to learn some very, very important lessons!
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 Posted 05/11/2014  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

Quote:
If someone owned an 1856 Flying Eagle cent in MS condition, this one is likely MS63, then it would be:

A. Slabbed by PCGS or NGC

If I owned it before Feb of 1986 and I never sent it in to a TPG would it have grown it's own slab?


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B. NOT in a Cardboard 2x2 [Edit: especially not a torn, dingy one]

In the case above it just might be in such a holder.


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C. NOT on ebay for a few hundred dollars. Likely on Heritage for tens of thousands.

Now THAT one I will agree with.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Along with all mentioned above, a one day auction is a big red flag. This is an attempt to have the auction complete before it can be reported to the ebay watch community and nuked.

If this were a legit coin it would be a seven day auction to get the most exposure to potential bidders.
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 Posted 05/11/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjspearsdog to your friends list
This was not on ebay. It was on a different auction site for longer than 7 days.
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