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1972-D 40% Kennedy Half ? Is It Possible ?

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 Posted 05/10/2014  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Try out the tissue test first and if it is positive, then you should pursue the XRF analysis.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Well, I tried the tissue test with this coin, a known clad and 2 walkers and 2 ben's and they ALL look dark.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I'm pretty sure Park Avenue Gold Exchange in Winter Park has XRF. You'd want to call to confirm and see if they're willing to test it for you first, of course. They may charge a couple bucks for the service.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
Thanks SsuperDdave.

Any pre cautions I should take ?
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 Posted 05/10/2014  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Make sure the silver coins you use in the test are not darkened as this will not work correctly.
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 Posted 05/10/2014  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list
And only use tissue. OR single ply toilet paper put it with anything silver proof lens or blue ike anything will work good luck keep us posted!
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 Posted 05/11/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list


Hey, I'm not sure what this means,


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Make sure the silver coins you use in the test are not darkened as this will not work correctly.


Do you mean the tissue test will only work on BU/UNC coins? Because this may be an AU coin but not a BU.

Also the coins I used to do the comparison were two 1951 Ben halves and a 1940 and 46 Walker halves. They are also in Cir condition.

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 Posted 05/11/2014  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
O.K. this might not help but here are a few pictures of the coin.


1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?


1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?

1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?

1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?

1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?

1972-D-40%-Kennedy-Half-?--Is-It-Possible-?

I posted the last one of the REV to show the banner. It seems that this are is actually Filled in and not just worn away.

Even so, I don't believe it would account for the amount this coin is Over weight.

Although again, This is my first attempt at really looking at Halves.

What do you think?

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 Posted 05/11/2014  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list
Rim looks clad to me
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 Posted 05/12/2014  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Thick stock. Clad coin not silver.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  02:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On the 1965-1970 halves the rim look silver with no copper showing.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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On the 1965-1970 halves the rim look silver with no copper showing

Except for those that do. MS pieces usually don't show the clad layering, but circulated pieces often do because the low fineness core darkens more the high fineness outer layers.

As I have said many times you can't use weight as a definitive test to tell clad and 40% silver halves apart. The tolerance range on both are to broad with too much overlap. A CuNi clad half can weigh anywhere from 10.88 grams to 11.79 grams. A 40% silver half can weigh from 11.1 grams to 11.9 grams. So a half dollar that weighs between 11.1 grams to 11.8 grams could potentially be either one.

The only way to be really sure which it is would be the XRF or a specific gravity test.

A 40% silver 1972 D would be VERY unlikely since the mint didn't make that many planchets in 1970 (only needed for collector sets) and none were made in 1971. While an old planchet could have been stuck in a tote bin or in a press somewhere for two years it is very unlikely.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
ok guys, Now I don't know What to do. I'll have to give this some more thought.

I am at least going to see what the going rate to test it is, when I can get a hold of the place.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squirrel777 to your friends list
Just drop it on the table. If it's a 40% half then the sound will be totally different. If you have a silver half and a clad half compare them, it's unmistakable. Then just drop the one in question. If it's silver you'll know by the sound.
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 Posted 05/18/2014  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eSinger to your friends list
That is clad, 99.9% sure on it. The reason that I am not 100 is that I have missed some roll hunting till I get to the date. It is rare but it happens.
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