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Update On Gnl Book On Counterfeits - The Good News

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 Posted 09/17/2014  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
Ahh, I moved away from Paris 5 monthes ago, forever ...
I now live in Nantes, which is a lovely place (close to the sea, quieter, better for the kids ...) :D
I'll miss for sure the cultural Paris live (and friends always coming to Paris ...)
Give me your dates when you come, as I sometime move there for a couple of days due to my business.

PS : just noticed they were on sale on their site, ordered the mexican c/s one ... not sure it's very nice for them to ship that to France.
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 Posted 09/17/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list


Just a hasty note.

The "rush" order of the proof of the hardback book from Ingram Spark in color arrived today. The quality is slightly better than black and white and the color in the pictures helps quite a bit. Some of the pictures were originally black and white so those remain the same.

The only problem I see with the copy I got was slightly bent corners - possibly caused by the packaging which was less than the best. It was acceptable for a proof but not for a finished product. I have ordered other books from them before that were better packed.

The text is identical to the B&W version except for one correction which will only matter if you are a member of the Schuldt family. The B&W version missed the c in their name. Many apologies.

The book will be available for direct order - price will be set by IS based on a discount from the list price of $169.95. This is similar to Amazon so I have no idea what they will cost finally.

The book is slightly thicker than the B&W copy (different paper as well as covers).

For anyone ordering the book - you should also order the CD copies of the files which have to come directly from me. I am still working on those because of a last minute computer crash that occurred while I was accessing some of the files. There are at least 3 files now corrupted or missing and I am doing a picture by picture comparison to get them right. A back-up file when re-installed on a PC actually restores all of the files well but the names can become corrupted as I just learned today so some files are now duplicated while others are in never-never land.

I hope to correct the discs before I leave for AZ. If I do I will bring as many copies as time allows.

Anyone at the AZ meeting of the USMexNA will have the opportunity to have John Lorenzo and myself autograph your copy.
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 Posted 09/18/2014  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
Robert : can you just put the CD/DVD with each book, as a companion ?
Anyone spending 170 USD on a book won't care much to have a couple of bucks added for the CD (even if they don't care).
That way, it's simpler for your to handle (just add 5 USD for example, it will cover some extra expenses you forgot for sure).
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 Posted 09/18/2014  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
Mathieu - None of the printers who produce on demand books will add CDs along with the books for shipment. That option does not exist. These books are printed locally by regional printers to same money on postage. Orders for the European markets are printed there. They are printed in England for the UK and in Australia for that market. That is done to save on shipping costs. The PDF file is sent to each printer when a book is ordered and the book is printed at that location. It does have the potential for variation in final quality - but to keep costs low it was the only way possible.

Regarding postage issues here is an example, Gordon Nichols one of my fellow authors lives in Canada actually just a few miles over the border. I tried to send him a proof copy of the Black and White book that I had ordered - so he could help with proofing. The cost for postage was $28 for that one book - six books for $127. I checked the rates with UPS and FedX and they were a few cents HIGHER in each case.

Gordon then ordered a copy through Amazon Canada and was told they were "out of stock". He then called Amazon US and they waived shipping costs so he got the book at the discounted rate for the day and shipping was free. That was a net savings to him in that case.

In the US 1 to 3 books can be sent anywhere in the country for $15 and for 4-6 it is $30. Weight is not a factor because flat rate packages IN THE US are volume based up to 70 pounds. The boxes used will hold ONLY 3 copies of the B&W version. I need to check to see how many hardbound copies will fit in the same box. The hardbound copy is 1/2 by 1/2 inch larger. If they will fit great - if not we are back to parcel post rates which combine volume and weight.

So, provided the hardbound books fit, I can re-mail 1-3 books with CDs for $15 extra plus the costs of the CDs and mileage and re-packing. I figured the cost would work out to $20 for the first copy and $5 each for copies 2 and 3. Then $20 for copy 4 with 5 and 6 at $5 each etc.

The cost for me to mail a book to anyplace outside the US is very expensive so shipping all books to me to include the number and the CDs is really not advisable. But I would do it if someone really wanted me to sign and number the copy for what the post office charged.

I will number and sign any book that goes through me. These books will be numbered from 1 up. I have been thinking that I will block out numbers based on total orders reported by Ingram so that I can limit the total number sold. I was planning to block out numbers from 500 downward. However, if someone orders a book directly and contacts me about ordering CDs I can then assign an actual number in sequence for their order. This is only for hardbound in color. The B&W version has no indication of numbering (see page 2). Copies of CDs for B&W versions will be actual cost based as well.

Nothing in this entire process has been really easy. It will be worth it if the book generates the dialog needed to move the science of Counterfeit Detection to front and center instead of relying on blind faith in experts.
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 Posted 09/18/2014  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
I was aware of the shipping thing for the B&W edition, but I thought the hardcover one should have to be printed and sent from the US.
That's why I thought you were handling all this :)

Anyway, you'll have to mail me at least one, as I'll want it numbered and signed with whatever word you want to put there :D
I'll pay shipping - CD - whatever, no worries ! :D
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 Posted 09/19/2014  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
Mathieu The rules were exactly the way you stated when Amazon printed hardcover books. They stopped doing that so I had to go to another printer for the hardcover version. This new printer can handle overseas requests locally according to their site data.

I will be handling only orders where the buyer wants me to do so in order to sign the book. I will of course sign books at the Convention in Arizona and at every show I attend.
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 Posted 09/19/2014  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
OK, got it, I didn't knew your new printer could do oversea printing :)
Anyway, I really want a signed one (as for every book I intend to keep) - so ... I'll give you some work :D
Thanks !
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 Posted 09/19/2014  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list

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...and at every show I attend.


swamperbob, will you be attending the Whitman Baltimore Winter Expo (Oct 30 - Nov 2, 2014)?
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09/19/2014 09:04 am
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 Posted 09/19/2014  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
jgenn No, I will still likely be in Arizona or Texas on my way back after the Convention. I also would love to stop at Tulane to search their archives for Riddell related data.
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 Posted 09/19/2014  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
GNL Hardbound is NOW up for sale at Amazon Books. For overseas buyers just wait as you did with the softbound version - it will be there shortly at Amazon Books U.K..

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 Posted 09/20/2014  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list
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 Posted 09/20/2014  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pruebas to your friends list
So let me see if I understand correctly.

I buy the hardcover version from Amazon (or possibly directly from Bob). I can bring it to Arizona for the USMEX convention for a John Hancock from two of the three authors, if desired. Bob will also number any such books signed.

I can also buy a CD/DVD with photos independently of the book. Will these discs be available for purchase at the USMEX convention as well?

I'm a bit confused on the whole procedure.
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 Posted 09/20/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Yes we will both be at the MNA Numismatic Convention in Arizona (Lorenzo & Gurney - not Nichols) to sign both the soft cover and hardbound.

Bob will have CDs to purchase at the Convention. He is just proofing them now for final sale distribution through North Carolina. As indicated there was no way to cojoin the CDs and Hardbound through Amazon Books.

Both the soft cover and hardcover are on sale now through Amazon Books U.S.. In about a week you will see the hardbound/color on the Amazon Books U.K. and Australia sites as you saw with the softbound issue..

The CDs will have all the Class 1 images plus more ... Bob at some point (very busy) can give us the total coins in the CD-set. They will include multiple images of Class 2-4 counterfeits as well - of course. This was planned from the beginning so people can get CRYSTAL CLEAR images of every Class 1 coin.

All CDs are purchased from the North Carolina address. (P.O. Box). But he is bringing some to the MNA Convention in October in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Moving forward updated versions will include all further Class 1 discoveries ... Version 2, 3, 4 ... etc. Just the CDs are updated - obviously - not the book.

John Lorenzo
Co-Author
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09/20/2014 11:47 am
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 Posted 10/31/2014  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
I purchased a softbound copy from Amazon yesterday for my reference library estimated to arrive next week.

I look forward to learning about these.

-MV

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 Posted 11/01/2014  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list
Got a copy of the soft cover from Amazon earlier and then picked the hardbound in Scottsdale. Both are excellent, but the hardbound with CDs is better. Color photos and CD resolution set it apart.

I gave the soft cover to my coin buddy as an early Xmas/late birthday present.

This is not a commercial endorsement, I have no financial interest, and am cheap. But to do it again I would have bought the hard cover and CDs first.
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