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Valued Member
Ireland
498 Posts |
Thank you SM.
They have different contract or plan for health insurance SM...like ,A,b,c plan when you got sick you are covered but it depends on what plans and to what amount of expenses they will cover, they will not cover serious illness that will cost them several thosands or hundred thousand for just a small amount of money they will get from their clients and spend the bulk of it to several clients that have serious illness and will consume their whole collection,I think.
That the cost of ones health is more costly than others may have thought,just for me.for in the third world they doing it as a businesss,show me the money first and I will admit you for their are countries like the Philippine change the law that it is a crime to deny a patient of services when they dont have deposit for their are hospital practicing this in the past and now was changed, its it that the pharmacetical and the medical services is costly or maybe commercialized for many if not most hospital and health insurance are now being privatise coz. others says its most effective but for me,much more costly and not a public service anymore but for PROFIT. this days just only varies in degrees of cost only depends on which part ot the world you are base and how good is your goverment,how inflation affect those costly medicine that some are band in other countries that other are selling their houses just to have that medication ,is all those expensive medication and hospitalization are covered by the insurer or only upto what plan that they have taken,does most of the population take the highest plan or only those that the majority can afford or no plans at all.
It is also true that a recent survey or studies that young men are afraid to go for check up medication that they may discover an illness that may turn up long term for serious illness are common even few decades ago.
For me health care and services is expensive for their are reports about companies and hospital exchanging notes about people applying for insurance for they the company avoiding huge expenses for their worker that may cost bulk of money from the company.
And its also heard some report about wrong doing of health insurance from onced own by the goverment change to private and change to goverment again or in that cycle and the insurance that most of the people today may not be that great help in the future for the expense in hospital and medication is very expensive even they are covered by their plan maybe only upto a point or what plan they choose,just for me.
I just simply dont agree that inflation does not affect the health care,maybe we only go seldom to be hospitalised that insurance ease the burden only to a point and degree of illness.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
597 Posts |
Lets try to keep this on topic and not on healthcare. We all know it went way up and that it sucks. But so does valueless coinage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2272 Posts |
"I would suggest we really don't need coins less than 10¢ now, the dime having the purchasing power of a 1960's cent."
I agree, except it's necessary to have a nickel to bridge the gap between the quarter and the dime. ie- How would you get 15c change otherwise. The quarter could be eliminated but that would be extremely expensive to waste all the effort that went into making them. And the dime is an unwieldy coin for older people because of its small size.
Hence the best solution is eliminate the cent, switch the nickel to aluminum, and circulate a $1 coin. When people get used to it then introduce a two and five dollar coin as well.
Of course the $1 bill has to go.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
597 Posts |
In a real world it would make more sense to have a 20¢ piece and not a quarter. But that was tried and failed miserably, and the US has never learned the lesson from the dollar coin.
Edited by Scottishmoney 08/13/2007 7:20 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AHH yes the good old days. I remember them well. Ice box, no regfrigerator, no TV, poor radio reception, no internet, no coin books, no jobs, no money, no Cd's, no DVD's, no Ipods, no computers. Of course a candy bar was .02 by me. And living near the Baby Ruth factory ment lots of samples at the factory door. Never paid to get into Wrigley Field. All kids just walked in on the Waveland side. And they had the Bears, Cubs, Wrestling, Rodios all there and we used to sneak in. If we got thown out our buddy lived across the street and we went up to the roof. Now people pay to do that. Pop machines were horizontal and cost a dime for a bottle of Coke or Pepsi. No cans back then. Grown ups paid .10 for coffee around here and cigaretts were .20 a pack. Comic books were .10 and there sure was a lot of them. You could go to a amusement park called Riverview on .02 night. Hang around there all night long for nothing. Each ride cost money so you just hung around. Of course people all died a lot earlier than now. Most of the people reading this would have died from some somple thing. One friend of mine died of a thing called a Hernia. Today that is like a tooth being pulled. Lots and lots of people died of UNKNOWN causes. Today we call that CANCER. One friend of mine died from an invected wisdom tooth where the invection went into his brain. People died of every thing that is common place today. Not to long ago I had stage 4 Cancer. Back then I would have been long dead. By the time I got to high school about 1/3rd of everyone I went to grade school with was dead. A few in jail. By the time I finished High School almost everyone I grew up with was either in jail or dead. AHHH yes, those were the good old days.
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Valued Member
Ireland
498 Posts |
Thank you SM.
What is the status of the economy of US in the 60s downward? When they start mining oil in the midwest and when it start to go downward? what is the status of the world economy in those days? And when the dollar start to lost its value and why? What happen when if coinage will kept up in inflation its effect on the majority?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Then there was the time when the schools let out, and all the kids marched in the big parade, celebrating the National Recovery Act, (also known as the day America died) 1932. That was when we were taken off the gold standard, and the govt recalled all the gold certificates. The only thing that still was worth the paper it was written on was the silver certificates. They too, went "down the drain", many years later. Out old 1929 chev. was traded in for a 1936 ford, brand, spanking , new, for $950.00! Talk about the "Good old days". You just don't know how good you have had it! Turnips, and rutabegas. Selling subscriptions to the "Ladys Home Journal, and Womans Home Companion", Cloverine salve. Having my preschool friends over on Sunday, so Mom could read the "funnies" to us. Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, in the 25th Century, the Katzenjammer kids. Then came the Depression! We were lucky. We didn't have a "pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of", but Dad was making $5.00 a day, so we didn't starve. to some m aybe those were the "good old days", but for my money, the good old days are past, and no loss to the govt!. I'm living it up more, now than at any time in my life. I was looking forward to getting SS checks,and not having to put up with un-grateful kids, unforgiving bosses, and un-godly working hours, (8-4)! Give me graveyard, or enve swing, but day-shift, no way! Do I regret having gone thru all those years, "a dollar short, and a day late? Nope. I don't worry about them. I am enjoying the "today", too much to waste time thinking about "how it was", back in the "good old days"! NOW, I collect coins, enjoy having the wife ask me what I want for dinner, and just be happy for all that life has given me. It may be more than I deserve, but, I won't complain. I never had it so good! Dick
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Dick, you have great attitude for those days. You sound like you remember all the goods. Unfortunately I remember all the bad things of back then. In Chicago there was just to much pain, suffering, death, crime and starvation. I'm glad those days are gone. I really like today.
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Valued Member
Ireland
498 Posts |
I like the 70s whe I was a kid,where folks from the province move to manila and nearby municipality then, now most of them if not all are cities that you can leave your door wide open for most of the people also migrated to the city to have something better where neighbor checking for one another at first no electricity can walk in wee hour in the morning a simple life in passing of time goes harder.
Now their is a lot of security high fence bob wired, iron bars on windows and dogs that onced you enter the premises you are your own to comfront the dog, some even security guards and be cautios walking the street even in early evening and now in third world you must be alert even when you are sleeping.
Yeah old days maybe liquior what does the few are taking now,for me today is very perilous time that thing in third world may goes to other countries maybe cities will be always cities.
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Valued Member
 United States
455 Posts |
quote tights24: "Regardless, I think the initial thought was why we don't have even $5 and $10 coins to keep up with the current prices of things in convenience stores etc. TS, straighten me out if I misinterpreted your original thoughts."
You've got it tights. My thinking is why can't I go in a lunch place, get a sandwich and a coffee and pay with change? That's what pocket change was traditionally for. Nowadays we don't need "pocket change," we need "pocket cash."
A long time ago I read an article about the early development of our coinage system. A decision was made not to mint 1/10 cents and to round purchases to the nearest cent. It made sense then, why not now? It's time to move the decimal again.
quote sap: "Governments know changing the currency is both unpopular and a sign of problems with the economy, so they only do this as a last resort."
I think sap is right. Doing a straight 10% adjustment would appear that we're fixing a problem. The way around this dilemma is to continue with our current coinage system, but add a $2.50, $5.00, and $10.00 coin. I would be tremendously pleased if this happened. It may have to occur in sync with the suspension of $1, $5, and $10 bills to be successful.
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Valued Member
Ireland
498 Posts |
I wonder what will happen to the philippines if that rate will apply  the effects of US dollar to our economy.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
651 Posts |
Here's an interesting story that might support TS's view. Last week I went grocery shopping with my wife and kids. As my wife and I got in line to pay, we were 4th in line so my 5 year old son and I went to the other end of the cash register to sit on a bench waiting for our turn to bag the groceries. As we were waiting, the first person dropped a penny that everyone heard and no one could be bothered to even look. My 5 year old, being the opportunist, jumped on the coin immediately the customer left and returned so proud he found a penny. As the third person in line checked out, they also dropped a coin and once again no one could be bothered to even look. And yes, my 5 year old quickly scooped up his find and returned to display a nickel that he proudly put in his pocket. As my wife checked out and I bagged we headed out the exit with my son running ahead of us excitedly to spend his new found money on one of the many gumball machines located by the exit doors. Unfortunately, he hasn't grasped the concept of cost and coin values and could not understand why he could not use his new coins (the cheapest Gumball Machine was 50 cents). Feeling his disappointment, I offered two trade two quarters or his penny and nickel which he did and went on to buy a super-ball from one of the gumball machines. The sad lesson to this is what little pocket change he had did not even have enough purchasing power for a Gumball Machine. Nothing excites a kid more than having the ability to purchase something THEMSELVES and typically a kids access to money comes in the form of pocket change. Nothing expressed this more than when I took all three of my kids to Staples last Friday where they were able to buy folders for 5 cents each, a one subject notebook for 39 cents and a box of crayons for 12 cents. They each pulled coins out of their banks to make the purchase and they were so happy to go up to a cashier by themselves, pay by themselves, and even counted their change by themselves. This was a pretty rare occasion where a coin had purchasing power but it made me remember how neat it was when ever I could buy whatever I wanted without Mom or Dad. With inflation being what it is, how many times a year can my kids enjoy this type of moment that I as a kid experienced all the time? Sorry to ramble on but I though it might be interesting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
We have the Sackies, the SBAs and now the Chief thief dollars to buy a piece of bazooka bubble gum with that used to cost a cent.
It's true that it's easier and faster to buy good coins with the Internet. It's also easier and faster to get burn-out. There's a lot more efficiency today in everything. But so what? "Efficiency" is just the fast lane to entropy.
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Valued Member
United States
76 Posts |
As for the original topic of this thread: I think eliminating the penny is probably a good idea - it costs too much to make it, it's like 1/10 of a penny or even 1/100 of a penny from 100 years ago. Those weren't needed then, and a penny isn't needed now. Like someone said, 99% of people won't even bend down to pick one up. That means its time has passed (due to the gov't printing so much money that our currency is almost worthless - the dollar has lost 96% of its purchasing power since the Federal Reserve started in 1913.)
As for $1 and $5 coins - think about how much cash you normally carry around. Inflation has made it LESS likely that you want to carry change. (Unless you're talking about $1, $5, $10, $25, and $50 coins.) You want to carry around $50 to $100 in $1 or $5 coins?
As much as I love OLD coins, I HATE having "pocket change." I use a credit card for almost everything so I don't have to carry much cash, or get back a handful of change (that's worth nothing). When coins were made out of silver and gold, well, that's another story altogether. Then you had something of real value, and I'd be glad to have a silver coin over a piece of paper. But now, the paper might be worth more than what they make the new $1 coins out of.
The more I read about what things used to cost, the more I want to buy silver and gold.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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quote: Out old 1929 chev. was traded in for a 1936 ford, brand, spanking , new, for $950.00! Talk about the "Good old days".
but Dad was making $5.00 a day
So as a percentage of income a comparible car today, to be at the same level of "The Good Old Days", should cost about $23,000. And if your father was making $5 a day in 1936, that would probably have put him in the top 20% of wage earners, so your family was probably better off on many others.
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