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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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I have been collecting a little over a year now, the main thing I have learned is that I know virtually nothing:)
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Moderator
 United States
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I have a PROBI AND CONSTANTINO, but not one of these. Might make for a good subset to collect.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts |
One of my PROBO - PERPETVO IMP C PROBO AVG  Divus coins are also a good source ending in "O"  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
3626 Posts |
Now I have a CRISPO!
I had to go and check my Probus quadriga, unfortunately it has the normal legend :) Your coins are stunning Maridvnvm.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I wish sellers would show both sides of the coin. ~pishpash As a Seller, Anne, I show both sides of the coins I sell. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I know you do, but so many don't :(
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4973 Posts |
did you pick up the OP crispo pish? has a very nice obverse. Quote:
I have been collecting a little over a year now, the main thing I have learned is that I know virtually nothing:) then you're a person of wisdom, here's one of my favorite devils' dictionary quotes.. Education, n. That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Ok I'm pretty sure I would get tsk'd-tsk'd by a Latin major but I think this is an example of the vocative case. Difference: DN CRISPVS NOB CAES (Our lord Crispus noble caesar) vs DN CRISPO NOB CAES (Our lord Crispus MADE noble caesar). The vocative case indicates that the subject is receiving an action.
Ras
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Moderator
United States
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Ras, If I understand you correctly that would mean that this coin was issued at the time or just before Crispus was made Caesar?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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this coin was issued at the time or just before Crispus was made Caesar? Crispus was appointed Caesar in A.D. 317. CRISPO was used a few times starting in A.D. 319 on VLPP from Lyons and again in A.D. 322 on the BEATA issue from Lyons. |
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United States
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So, does that mean that CRISPO is just another way of using his name and has no other meaning than that?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't think it is the vocative ( et tu Brute ? )
Vocative endings for 2nd declension masculine are 'us' or 'e'
us - nominative ie subject of sentence
i - genitive ie possessive form 'of' someone
o - dative ie something is 'for' someone
um - accusative ie direct object of sentence
o - ablative ie from or by someone
It's been 35 years since I had Latin at UMass but I am thinking we are looking at the ablative
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Valued Member
United States
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In the case of caesars the minute they got their first coin that meant by definition they were formally next in line. I can't think of a single case where a living heir is portrayed on a coin prior to getting this title. Anyway, it's a hard concept to get across because in English we don't have declensions but, yeah, the -O suffix is just another way of addressing the person being honored.
Ras
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Chrsmat: Yes I am waiting for delivery and thank you for your kind comment, I love your devil's dictionary quote.
Everyone else: Thank you for the Latin lesson, fascinating stuff.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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it is not an ablative , but a dative and means ; to our lord Crispus, noble Caesar.
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