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Pillar of the Community
United States
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CT, what did you dip it in?
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Valued Member
United States
320 Posts |
As you guys know, I recently experimented with dip. Just like chasingtailbar, I found coins that I just knew were hiding massive beauty under some god aweful toning. After a quick dip and some spot treating, I ended up with a handful of 64-65 beauties. And they are just as striking as a graded one. I even did some very quick spot treating using a qtip to a proof morgan. It now looks as brand new. (Pics are on another post). I think some times a coin needs a little help to reveal its pure beauty. Just my opinion
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Pillar of the Community
Korea, Republic Of
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Acetone dip I guess? Great results.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
898 Posts |
I don't really have a preference of which looks better, but I liked the toning on the undipped better I think. They both look awesome!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2815 Posts |
I won't ever get involved in dipping myself, but I gotta say that I absolutely LOVE the patina on this coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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What surprises me is it looks like you lost what to my eye was blue toning. Darker, non-terminal toning is typically the first to go on a dipped coin, followed by lighter toning. Toning is essentially removed in the opposite order that it occurs on the coin. Quote:
And what dip did you use? Quote:
chasingtailbar, forgive my ignorance, but I am curious about what exactly you are dipping these coins in. Quote:
CT, what did you dip it in? Quote:
Acetone dip I guess? To answer these questions... For starters, acetone won't remove toning, only organic compounds attached to the coin. Toning is usually a sulfur-based oxide and actually changes the surface composition of the metal, from what I understand. If I'm wrong please correct me. This coin got a quick bath in acetone (couple hours with no change) then a 2 second dip in ammonia, followed by a hot water rinse, a pat dry, and then another trip back into acetone for 24 hours. Quote:
I don't really have a preference of which looks better, but I liked the toning on the undipped better I think. They both look awesome! I like the dipped result better, personally... the undipped coin, while it had some decent toning, was far too dark for my tastes and lacked the luster of a nice MS coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ammonia. That would probably be a good place to start experimenting (before jumping into ez est) after water, and acetone. Have read quite a few threads on dipping, but can't remember ammonia being discussed that much. Thanks for the tip.
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Valued Member
United States
160 Posts |
It would be interesting to conduct this experiment by cracking out a decent sample size of 64s, dipping, resubmitting, and recording the results. Would make a better argument as far as objectivity.
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Valued Member
United States
171 Posts |
My opinion I would have left it alone. You did loose some of the color and as far as luster goes it was still there but under the toning, and by twirling the coin it should have been able to be seen under good lighting conditions. I like my coins original as possible, so I myself wouldn't dip a coin. If you paid strong 64 money for it and you said looked 58, then there must have been others that thought it was a 64 coin also. Coindog, those marks under the n help identify the VAM just as the mark at the junction of the jaw and neck. There is also clashing on the reverse. |
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United States
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A lot of 1886 Morgans that are around were struck on these old dies. I bought several a while back, along with some 1889-P's that looked the same. The die cracks on these dies are very prominent. The crack goes through the hair and bonnet on the ones I purchased and it looks like this one is similar.
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Valued Member
United States
301 Posts |
Nice tip on the ammonia. I personally loved the tone look before...
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Valued Member
United States
416 Posts |
I thought I liked this Morgan a lot when you first posted it but I will admit it looks even better now; would love to get this if you decided to sell (I know you are going to send it in before deciding)...just saying
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New Member
United States
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I know your 1986 Morgan and your thread about cleaning this Morgan is a bit old now, but I wanted to post, that your coin, if you already don't know, appears to have clashed dies on the reverse! Someone pointed out a line- a vertical strand below the "N" of the "In God we trust," which looked to me like what you see with Clashed dies, and I then looked at the inside of first 5 leaves of the reef on the right side of the Eagle, which on your coin, there is a light mark there that I have seen on many Clashed Dies of the reverse of Morgan's. Just thought you might want to know if you don't already know!
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
Depends on what the coin is made from, and what dips are available.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
 to CCF @dreamedreamer. chasingtailbar is long gone but yeah, he knew what he had as far as VAMs. It sounds as though you collect Morgans. We would love to see what you have.  |
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