Possibly The Most Grossly Overgraded Canadian Coin Ever....

Sure looks overgraded I think your pretty close at G-6 . IMO

Well.. I think it may be better than G-6 but it's not a VF-20, not with those photos anyway.

I'd say it looks about F-12

lighting is not the best, through plastic ? looks closer to VG ...but for sure not VF

I have made the mistake in the past of purchasing 2 American dimes (a barber and a mercury) based on blurry far away pics but I had made several purchases from this seller before no problem (with good pics). Total disappointment, melt value only and paid way to much. Lesson learned about purchasing based on crappy blurry pics, lost trust in that seller.

Yes,..and No....you have to remember that some early vicky strikes were very flat to begin with.

Look at the the eye-lid for a starting point. Some good details are still showing. Ex: many 1858 20 cent pieces can initially fool you because of the weak strike to begin with.

The lower obv legend letters are very flat whereas many others are not,..would this be because of the weak strike,?..because I'm sure that it's not wear..

I'm no expert here, but it would be nice to receive comments back from them here..

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There was a discussion about this on the french forum and the bottom line is that grading a coin on the sheldon scale is subjective because the Sheldon scale is based on general guidelines for all coins and not for an exact design.

As an example, The Sheldon scale describes VF20 as : Moderate wear on the higher surface features.

When a reference guide describes VF20 to be "braid are clear but not sharp" for a victorian design, it is an interpretation of what is "Moderate wear on the higher surface features" for these victorian coins.

Exactly my thoughts.

@DEVLEC: Even with a weak strike and the point made about the eye, I see this coin going F-15 MAX. Without the potential strike weakness it's a VG-10 at best.

I get the feeling that the angle of the coin photographed really washes out the braid detail... I may be wrong but I suspect that in hand the braid detail is FAR more defined, would also love to see a pic of the reverse...

That being said, I think even in hand many Canadian collectors would still think it is overgraded, and it comes down to the well known difference in grading philosophies of American grading companies in comparison to the Canadian grading companies... Canadian grading companies are far stricter on wear on circulated coins but will also ignore other problems which would not be accepted for a numerical grade by PCGS or NGC...