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British Coins, Please Help Me With A Price Guide In Dollars?

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 Posted 10/03/2014  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
wooosh! you got a job ahead of you.

The ongoing problem I have found is not converting the pound sterling price to US or Canadian dollars, but figuring out which coins are worth more or less on this side of the pond.

This Website is a great start

http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/index.html

He has put in a lot of hours into this and I find it very useful. The Standard Catalog can be a good place, but the market seems to be all over the place.

I have found the following;

The Krause Standard Catalog is pretty close if you are dealing with a LCS.

ebay prices are all over the place and too inconcistant to make good judgement calls with

Slabbed coins are often overgraded as they are graded by American standards. An NGC or PCGS XF 45 will seldom be better than a VF to an Englishman.

Graded coins are often insanely priced and will not match any price guide I have found.

There is a guide called Spinks that I am told is quite good, but again it is for the British market. The only time I had one in hand it was a year old and the dealer was asking $160 US for it (he still has it as far as I know).

Remember if it is below VF US grade standards than as a rule it is concidered not collectable by English Collectors.

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 Posted 10/03/2014  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
Now having said that I would love to know what you have!
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 Posted 10/03/2014  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
Spinks pricing is for the lowest variety of each coin (especially for hammered)
Collectors coins GB only goes back to 1797 but it covers the most varieties and IMO is the best guide & cheap.
There are plans to take it back to 1672.to cover 99.9% of the milled issues.
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 Posted 10/03/2014  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list

Quote:
There are plans to take it back to 1672.to cover 99.9% of the milled issues


That 0.1% being the 1695 (not 1696) you haven't got (yet)
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 Posted 10/03/2014  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
what I have?
the following were baught as a lot for $100 Canadian and graded by me using the American/Canadian standards.

half crowns
.1898 F 12
.1915 VF 35 darkly toned possibly higher
.1918 EF 45 nice white
.1920 VG
.1929 VG

florins
.1866 gothic die number 15(cool right) G
.1918 EF 45 nice white
.1921 EF possibly higher, darkly toned
.1922 VG

shillings
.1826 G6
.1885 EF 45 with darh target toning to light in center that enhances eye appeal
.1888 VG
.1894 VG 10
.1898 G
.1910 AU50 dark toning but nice, well struck
.1918 AU50 nice white
.1922 VG
.1923 VG

6 pence
.1817 F 15
.1967 G (die number 4 awesome)
.1887 EF-AU cleaned :(
.1905 G
.1910 G-VG
.1914 F12
.1916 VG
.1918 AU nice white
.1924 VG-F

3 pence
.1892 VG-F
.1895 VG10
.1897 F12
.1899 VG-F
.1902 F12
.1908 VG10
.1915 VF30
.1915 EF+ darkly toned
.1917 EF+
.1918 VG
.1918 AU nice detail
.1920 VG10

colonial
.1904 British Guiana and west indies 4 pence G-VG

any help with values on these guys individually








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 Posted 10/03/2014  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list
Coins of England and the United Kingdom and British Coins Market Values are good books.
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 Posted 10/03/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
could someone help me with the British grading compared to American please?
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 Posted 10/03/2014  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
Rooney I was referring to the few Liz 1 coins which weren't hammered.


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 Posted 10/03/2014  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic biz to your friends list
No great shakes in that lot you bought.
But I would say $100 CAD is a deal Value around $200 - $250 CAD on ebay

Have butchers at ebay.co.uk and you will find prices

re grading

http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Guid...rading+coins

and the last coin on list will sell at around $5 USD on ebay.com

I have listed quite a few of them in low grades and they always sell between $5 to $9.99 USD
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 Posted 10/03/2014  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
There is no hard and fast rule but the UK grade will probably grade 10 points lower.
Looking at some US TPG's they are not consistent.
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 Posted 10/03/2014  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marek101 to your friends list
Wait, I think there is one coin that may worth something...assuming it is an EF...the 1885 Shilling. According to Krause (numismaster.com), it's worth $180.

Coin Mintage FINE VF XF UNC
1885 3,337,000 18.00 30.00 180.00 375.00

Also, the 1910 shilling could be around $100 if AU condition and the EF half crown and florins are around $30 to $40 each. As for the 1887 6 pence, there is one variety (KM#757) that is worth $110 otherwise $30.

Of course, these are retail prices and I do agree with some of the comments .... that prices are all over the places and anything below XF will not fetch much, and grading english coins is not easy.
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 Posted 10/04/2014  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
http://www.rpcoins.co.uk/c7%20pics/00667.jpg
This should give Dollarman an idea of grade and price for a 1885 shilling.
NEF £95
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 Posted 10/04/2014  08:47 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
Marek101, what are the 1887 varieties?
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 Posted 10/04/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marek101 to your friends list
@thedollarman,
I believe the 1st picture below is the one with the higher value....there is one selling for $150 on ebay. The other is the common type which sells around $30.



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 Posted 10/04/2014  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
That was $100 well spent, Dollarman.

In 1887 there was a shield reverse shilling and a Normal Reverse. The normal reverse says one shilling and the date.

If you go to the link I sent you will see what that gothic florin should look like. One of the worlds most beautifull coins for my money. you can look up the price just remember if you think VF price it as F. Multiply by the exchange rate 1.6 or there about.

That will give you a high end retail price IF there is a strong market for Enlish in your area.

In my area unless a coin is a stunner the smaller silver goes for a little above melt. The half crowns and florins. especially the gothic florin will have a bit of a premium.
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