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So If Silver Goes To 100$ Which Coins Would You Melt?

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 Posted 10/24/2014  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Universalcoins to your friends list
In the inevitable rush to sell coins at $100/oz I'd keep at least one of each series I get and then melt the rest that I buy. THEN, once I've assured that a considerable quantity of NCLT has been melted off, jack my prices up tenfold knowing that the availability is so low!!

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 Posted 10/25/2014  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
The whole precious metal situation is manipulated and doesn't follow normal economics.

http://business.financialpost.com/2...nce-of-gold/

That is saying that gold costs $1100 - $1200 an oz. to produce. Who would/could sell bread for $1.10 a loaf if the wheat in it cost $1.00 to produce?

And consider most silver production is a side product of gold production.
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 Posted 10/25/2014  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list
If silver hits $100 I'll ride my flying pig to a frozen over Hades.
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 Posted 10/25/2014  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list

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That is saying that gold costs $1100 - $1200 an oz. to produce. Would could sell bread for $1.10 a loaf if the wheat in it cost $1.00 to produce?


It costs 1.8c to produce a US penny.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...s-last-year/
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 Posted 10/31/2014  10:06 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Maybe a better question............... what should you buy at $15.00 silver?
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 Posted 10/31/2014  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
I think that the most recent spike (over the last 3-4 yrs) in silver was mainly due to the fact large financial industries had to have enough physical silver to cover the "paper" silver they were selling in case someone wanted physical payment in the actual commodity.

I know that for extraction it cost approx $9-$11 dollars per oz.. So yes silver could and probably will go a bit lower still...

- $30 silver.. a likely scenario again.. but will depend on inflationary rates..
- $50 silver... also likely... but I will probably already have one foot in my grave and the other on a banana peel by that time...
- $100 silver... not unless silver is the ONLY metal out there that will support the absolute newest technology in computer engineering or transportation.. I just don't see it happening...

As for $15 silver... I will do the same with $15 silver as I have with $20 silver and $30 silver and $40 silver as well as what I did with $10 silver... Buy the coins I like...& enjoy them...
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 Posted 10/31/2014  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list
Well, one of the latest techs is solar energy. And silver is needed for solar panels. Could this tech contribute to a change in supply/demand for silver in the near future?

FYI:

http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2014...stry-silver/

In the meantime, silver is nearing $15... maybe we should start a new thread...if silver goes to $5, which coins would you BUY?
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 Posted 10/31/2014  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

> It costs 1.8c to produce a US penny.

3 billion pennies per year -> $24 million per year loss
Daily US deficit: $2 billion


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 Posted 10/31/2014  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Government may do things at a greater cost... if it's believed it's for the greater good.

Private enterprise will NOT. If price of silver were to drop for a sustained period of time below what it would cost to extract it... mines would shut down.

With respect to solar energy panals... I'm not really sure that there really is enough silver used in that industry or the medical industry yet to significantly drive the market at this point.
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 Posted 11/01/2014  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list

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With respect to solar energy panals... I'm not really sure that there really is enough silver used in that industry or the medical industry yet to significantly drive the market at this point.


It appears China is the leading player in the solar panel industry. This does not have a reflection on the silver market at this time, but perhaps the demand for solar panels might incrase in the coming years?...

In race for solar power, China is winning

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environmen...a-is-winning

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 Posted 11/01/2014  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
That's only 70 million in 5$ Canadian Rounds Guess the mint might have an excuse to charge 120$ for one OZ of art.



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close to 70 million ounces of silver are projected for use by solar energy by 2016.


https://www.silverinstitute.org/sit...olar-energy/
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 Posted 11/01/2014  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
Same site says worldwide production is 819 million oz.

https://www.silverinstitute.org/sit...-production/

So, approaching 10% of the entire production is going to one industry.
Also collaborates AgCoinAu figure. Says cost is $9.27 an ounce.

But, a decade ago silver was $5 an ounce. So, like gold, silver miners have seen a massive cost increase. When do mines start shutting down as the prices drop?

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 Posted 11/01/2014  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
I guess the profit margin is the tell all but if the majority is a byproduct it will always makes sense to refine it. I've certainly harvested my share. It may sound like a lot of silver but it's still under 24 metric tons.
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 Posted 11/01/2014  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

Sure. But, gold miners are tight tight tight cost to price. If the silver provides the profit, then all is OK. But, if they can't afford to mine at all, then their silver production disappears too.

And, its not a faucet. They won't be able to turn on a mine again very quickly. So, if a physical supply squeeze occurs who knows where the price will go.

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 Posted 11/01/2014  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Fix guy I certainly have UNDER 24 metric tonnes ... But I'm closer to .001 than I am to 24.... If your nearing 24MT woah! Impressed!

Allspice you are absolutely correct that China is leading the worl in the production of solar panels the problem is quality control. There are some pretty big issues with the panels where life expectancy is not exceeding the point of positive gains... Bluntly the cost of other energy sources will still have to climb for it to be feasible for the panels to be purchased with such a poor track record.

Dialog...mines have in the past remained open even if the primary metal or even the secondary metal they extract costs more to extract than market price.. It's not a great business practice beloved by many on a board or by shareholders.. But it has happened. Most big and mid sized miners simply dump their current explorations, and claims that they haven't broken any earth and hope to ride out the dip.... But after 2 quarters of losses the stock can drop faster than speeding bullet.

If mines do end up shutting down there is still currently a large surplus of shines already above ground... Speculating that this may eventually end up in a shortage a drive market share up... Well that's one way of thinking.... Course if I was a large miner that still had supply and could maintain business all while my competitors had to shut down....it may be more in my interest to continue filling contracts at the current price point and striving for a monopoly, positive mergers and acquisitions and more lucrative bids on projects..
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