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United States
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Yeah, that is very well struck for an 88-O. Looks like a good shot at 66 assuming the camera is making the luster grazes pop.
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Korea, Republic Of
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Amazing strike for the date/MM. Great luster too.
MS-66 at the least, if it didn't have those chatter on the cheek and the fields in front of her face, it would be an easy 67 IMO.
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United States
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Beautiful coin, looks like a MS66 to me. MS 66+
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This is a nice 64. Maybe a plus. Nowhere near 66 territory. Strike is of secondary or tertiary concern when grading uncirculated coins.
Look at the price jump from 64 to 65. You must have a cleaner coin than this to make the jump from a $100 coin to a $500 coin.
Edited by MorganGrader
11/08/2014 7:35 pm
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Well I appreciate your opinion, I think you are off a little bit on this one. I own 2 PCGS MS-65's, 1 65+ V-1a1 E clasher Top Pop and a V-10 in MS-66 Top Pop and not 1 holds a candle to this one. The friction marks are far less noticeable and light would be an understatement in hand and the reverse looks like it could carry a MS-67. Time will tell, this and 10 others will be at PCGS on Tuesday. . . See pick below of my PCGS V-1a1 in MS-65+    Edited by twohawks
11/08/2014 9:06 pm
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You have the coin in-hand and I have to grade from the provided images. That's my grade from the images provided. The other you have shown appears to have less frost breaks and chatter. The reverse won't carry a Morgan, ever. The obverse carries these and the obverse isn't as nice as the 65 you've posted. Just my Two Cents based on the provided images. I guess I could see PCGS market grading this one to 65 for the strike, but I think it's a 64+. Edited by MorganGrader
11/08/2014 11:19 pm
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Canada
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Considering the strike I can see a 65 on this one, like MorganGrader mentioned.
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Looks like I nailed it. A technical high end 64 market graded 65 for the strike. Still a nice coin.
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United States
604 Posts |
That is one good looking bird!
Right down to her pretty little talons!
She's an easy 65 candidate.
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United States
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I just got back about 270 dollars back from PCGS this week. One of my clients just when ballistic, he had busted out "5" PCGS with CAC stickers coins and had me send them in with his other group. 1 coin graded the same MS-64, 3 others graded 1 full grade lower and 1 coin graded 2 grades lower. While I have seen the grading standards get real tight of late, I would whole heartily agree that the 1st baseman is afraid of making a mistake or this is just a remarketing poly for re-grades later like the Old Green Holders. Here are a few of the coins I got back and grades, I would not sell a 1 of them at the grades that came back. 1888 O MS-63  1888 S MS-63  1889 O AU-50  1878 P 8 TF MS-63  |
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United States
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I'd need to see the reverse of the 1889-O, but the MS grades are plain ridiculous. I'm a market maker for those in 63, let me tell you.
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United States
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HEY RUSS../ its terrible that the population of graded coins VS the coins not graded then submitted will crash the known population and VALUE of those said coins so they will be diminished in grade when submitted...hence they will tend to down grade those ungraded coins so they will not rock the VALUE of published "KNOWN POPULATIONS" grades which influence the value of available "KNOWN"coins at that "GRADE" in the market place.......This is why so many try to re-grade "the old green holders" pcgs, as supposidly. they were under graded...but as the grading changes due to the "DOLLAR VALUE" back then they had far more chatter ECT... and put them into "GRADED HOLDERS" lockinging them into some kind of POSITIVE VALUE....by which many are investment holders..... those investment holders only care about the STAMP from PCGS of the grade.......after 18 BILLION in grade accessments...new influx grades of preceious years or of coinditional rarity...meaning or some years MS 65 GRADES for like in the 1881-s is a COMMON STRIKE...New coin submittles will not effect the3 current market price as there are so many... yet for many such as Russ's coin....this coin IS TO CLEAN for the year... TIT FOR TAT...... SO one can say...88-o's always are known for poor strikes.....  and they are consistently graded for lack of detail and they do get the MS 65 GRADE....but they do... I...having collected for, crap since 1962? to now? I don't want to know but I will tell you there are FAR MORE over graded coins....within the system...that will effect the POPULATION VALUES than a true coin.IF THEY WOULD VALUE IT AS ITS OWN...condition. not on the markets ACCEPTENCE TO THE BIG LEAGE OF VALUE.... RUSS my friend....thats an acceptional coin...played by the market and by who will let it go to the upper limits....... They cheated you........I'm behind you........ Gene |
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Yeah, there is that fantastic PCGS grading everyone must pay so much more for. Pfftttt.
I would say what they did to you on those grades, but that is not family friendly.
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