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Can Anyone Explain This Listing

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 Posted 11/12/2014  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
I hope I am not out of line here. I don't want this to seem like I am on a personal witch hunt but the more I look into this seller the more suspicious I get.

Not to beat a dead horse, but if you search this guy's 'completed listings' you will see, IMO, mostly fakes easily matched to examples documented on FAC fake reports.

I don't have time to post much at the moment but something smells here. Yes, he pulled the Constantia coin (as well as the Vetranio) but was that in good faith or was it because he got caught. Is this guy an artifact specialist only, with no knowledge of ancient coins, or is he just playing the 'ignorance is bliss' card.

I would like to see what he offers in the future before considering any nomination for the NFSL on FAC.

But.....as a seller myself, when I sell something that I am not well versed in, I take a few minutes to search the appropriate sites to get a ballpark figure for what the item should sell for. Many of the coins this guy sold would have realized MUCH greater prices had they been real, so either he lives in lala land, or is too busy, or he is deaf and couldn't hear the sirens going off....OR, he knows they are fake and is just happy that there are buyers willing to throw their hard earned money down the drain.

Here is just one example of the Romulus coin that sold for a mere 90 Euros

His sold coin:
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Die match from Fake reports?
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Apologies for my rant.

Thoughts and/or rebuke and/or flogging appreciated

-BD
Edited by Biancasdad
11/12/2014 3:37 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
If you go to the sticky section for Fake Anicents you can see a list of Notorious Fake Sellers, he is on this list along with about a 100 or so more.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
You rant away BD :)
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 Posted 11/12/2014  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Echizento, where are you seeing the list? I don't see him on the one on forvmancientcoins.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list


P.P. - I think that Ski may not be referring to 'through_the_ages_antiquities' (your seller who I also couldn't find on the list), but he may be referring to Saxby's who are on the NOTORIOUS FAKE SELLERS LIST.

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 Posted 11/12/2014  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Here is the list: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/bo...opic=18502.0

Unless I'm missing something Saxby is on the list about 3/4 of the way down.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list


Thank-you, Ski.

As I suspected. No 'through_the_ages_antiquities', but 'Saxbys' is there.


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 Posted 11/12/2014  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
I wasn't talking about saxbys, so I'm not sure what that has to do with this guy. It doesn't really matter where he is buying them from, only wether he is intentionally selling them with the knowledge that they are fake.

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 Posted 11/12/2014  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list
I am afraid the diversion to discussion of Saxbys was my fault originally, as I suspected that may have been the source of some of these coins, so I apologise for that.

However I do not agree that whether or not he is knowingly selling fakes is the only issue. Whilst that may be the most serious reason for condemnation, it is relevant if someone who sets themselves up as a dealer in ancients is so inexperienced that they might source their stock from entirely untrustworthy sources, with no ability to recognise clear fakes and forgeries themselves, in the hope that by obtaining non-extent super bargains on rare coins in such a way, and a quick sale, they can make a hefty profit with a minimum of effort.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
Val, I agree with you 100 percent.

This guy obviously knows that some of these coins are rare, so playing the 'ignorance is bliss' card doesn't work for me considering there is a number of free resources online to at least attempt to ascertain the authenticity of the coins he is selling.

The denarii in particular all have the same look, decent style but the edges and surfaces look odd. I am away from my computer at the moment but I recall that one of the examples I found in the fake reports had a note allluding to pressed coins made from steel dies out of Bulgaria. The name of the group responsible alludes me at the moment but it certainly explains why the edges all look so ragged along with the odd surfaces
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11/12/2014 8:54 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
What denari? Because I a not a seller, I can only see the past 15 days sales. Can you give links?
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 Posted 11/12/2014  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
See if this works: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/through_t...&from=refine

So if you're not a seller you can't see the completed listings for more than 15 days? That seems strange that a potential buyer can't research a seller
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11/12/2014 9:23 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list
BD. - P.P. is right.

We can only see sales from the last 15 days MAX.
Unless we are doing it wrongly.

I would be very grateful if you would walk me through the steps to get the last 60 days, as you did, please?

I am sure that P.P. would appreciate it, too.
Edited by Topcat7
11/12/2014 11:29 pm
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 Posted 11/13/2014  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
I just go to sellers items for sale then go to the 'refine' option and scroll down to the 'completed listings' option and activate it

When you click on the link I provided on my last post does it show a list of 324 completed listings?
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 Posted 11/13/2014  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list

Works for me. Thanks B.D.

We live and learn.
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