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Dollar Coin Alliance Lobbyist Says: "It Will Happen"

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 Posted 12/16/2014  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list
you don't want an android update, you want 4.0 or lower, not kitkat.... you wont be able to access your money if your data is stored on your SD card.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
A cashless society is coming, and it will be world wide. Just a matter of time. I can't even begin to speculate how long before this happens. Just my personal belief.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
It will happen the same day that the dollar coin lobby "donates" more money to Congress than Crane and the zinc industry combined.

If this ever happens people will embrace the $2 bill at first but its usage will wane over the years. Initially there will be nearly half as many two dollar notes in circulation as one dollar notes are now. People will want a two dollar coin in a few years.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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you don't want an android update, you want 4.0 or lower, not kitkat.... you wont be able to access your money if your data is stored on your SD card.
Funny. I have zero problem using my Droid Maxx running version 4.4.4.


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It will happen the same day that the dollar coin lobby "donates" more money to Congress than Crane and the zinc industry combined.

If this ever happens people will embrace the $2 bill at first but its usage will wane over the years. Initially there will be nearly half as many two dollar notes in circulation as one dollar notes are now. People will want a two dollar coin in a few years.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list
Lol Jbuck. I agree, 4.4.4 is fine. Something happened to my ability to play flash on a few sites, but MX Player fixed it for the most part. Shadz, when I said an "Android upgrade", I meant upgraded TO the Android OS, not a version update LOL

Give everyone 2.0 for all I care. (Then I'll liquidate all my bullion into PayPal stock)
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 Posted 12/16/2014  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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he said that "It WILL happen.

Of course it will happen, but next year? The year after? Next decade? A couple decades? It should have happened 35 years ago when they first introduced the small dollar. Everyone else realizes that with on a year or so after they introduce a small base unit coin, we're in our fourth decade and haven't realized it yet.



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I totally understand your personally bored with what we have now, and would love a whole bunch of changes, But the simple fact is that the majority of the country doesn't feel the same.

I suppose that is why when they were suddenly faced with all the changing State Quarters they rejected them and the program quickly died. No really the general public is always afraid of change and want to maintain the status quo even when doing so is impossible or uneconomic. But once it is forced onto them they quickly adapt. Unforced they resist and change comes very slowly.
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 Posted 12/16/2014  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list

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Just my personal belief.


Well when that can stop places form even Sony Pictures systems from getting hacked, then maybe it will happen. Right now even USB devices that have always been used for everything aren't safe from hacking your computer. I don't trust Apple, IBM/Lenovo, Microsloth, or any of the rest of them. The only secure electronics I know of are ones that are read only like Fisher Price toys that don't connect to the internet. You can't do that with monetary devices.

Anyone that blindly trusts SkyNet is foolish.


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Shadz, when I said


Ahh... well I am looking at an android kitkat device now so I will have a tablet for an ereader. have no idea what it will take to make it read pdfs I have had for years, but for the price it is worth a try. might even be able to take coin pics with it is the 2mp camera is decent enough to show things and no longer have to use loupe just pass the coin under the camera and magnify it for easier coin checking.

is there a CCF app?


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really the general public is always afraid of change


This sounds like the rallying cry of those that want to get rid of the penny and keep the dollar bill.

Everyone is always telling me that even change for the sake of change is good and I disagree in everywhere except money. having change for the sake of change means more coins to look to find something!
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 Posted 12/16/2014  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schris252 to your friends list
maybe it will happen, not anytime soon though, the us populous shows little to no interest in dollar coins. why would they change something that is universally accepted anywhere in the US, easily recognizable anywhere ? try to see it from a non - coin collector point of view.
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 Posted 12/17/2014  02:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list

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try to see it from a non - coin collector point of view


i don't look at it from collectors POV. *** Not Family Friendly! ***
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 Posted 12/17/2014  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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A cashless society is coming, and it will be world wide. Just a matter of time. I can't even begin to speculate how long before this happens. Just my personal belief.

What I've been saying for a long, long time. Even now people are starting to use their cell phones to do monetary transactions. Computers will translate one country's money to others. Every where you go will soon all be paid for electronically. It will take time but that is the future of money. Just all gone.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Pne other factor to consider is that urban areas are a lot different than rural. I am not in what most people consider a city, but it is a populated area. I can say that change - including pennies) are still in common use. Yes, people pay with cell phones, but there are a LOT of people who do not. Its not like NYC, I am sure.

I also don;t like the idea of every time I go to a garage sale, electronically paying. I know they do it in the name of national security, but I think its bad enough banks report any bank transaction of 10K or more (not that I have to worry about such things!), and only see a cashless society of the government then finding an excuse to keep track of every dime I spend/own to make sure they get their cut.

Having said all of that - back to the topic. Coercion will force the public. But the government in the US is supposed to be made of people we elect to make laws be what we want them to be. To force people to use something the majority of people say they don't want, is misuse of powers (aka look at D.C. issues now).

If the people want it, and elect people who will vote the way they want, then it should be able to happen. But since the government is supposed to work for the people (OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people)- not the other way around, they need to do what We the People elected them to do.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Very simplistic way of looking at how things get done by elected officials. In reality, the cash contributing lobby is the squeaky wheel here...not the voters. I don't remember voting for keeping the $1 bill...never will come up for a vote.

I am sure the supporters of dumping the $1 bill have expressed their desires to their elected officials but they are in the EXTREME minority when put against the campaign cash crowd....

It is just not on most peoples' "big deal" list

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 Posted 12/21/2014  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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In reality, the cash contributing lobby is the squeaky wheel here...not the voters. I don't remember voting for keeping the $1 bill...never will come up for a vote.
This is the truth.
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 Posted 12/21/2014  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Coercion will force the public. But the government in the US is supposed to be made of people we elect to make laws be what we want them to be. To force people to use something the majority of people say they don't want, is misuse of powers

Right the people should always have what they want. That's why we still have silver coins, and unlimited speed limits for driving our great big cars with no seatbelts or airbags. No vaccinations for our kids before the can go to our segregated schools (That is if we even let our slaves go to school) etc etc etc.

Sorry but sometimes we do have to be coerced.
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