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OK, it's very possible I'm wrong. Funny, I have one or two, but you're right, I've obviously not looked closely at them. The eagle looks creepy, like they plucked his breast feathers.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It looks like a legitimate D2 reverse coin with environmental damage.
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I see nothing worrisome about the features on the coin but that "die crack" through the wing is unique and unknown to me on a 1921 Morgan. As large as it is, I wonder why it hasn't been seen before. Vietnam-numismatique, could that line possibly be part of the darker stuff above it, or a postmint accident? The die cracks at the letters are typical, but this one is not and I'd probably know if such a crack existed on a 1921.
This is not certain, though.
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Pillar of the Community
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Unless it's just your images the surfaces look lifeless.
I suspect it was dipped.
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Unless it's just your images the surfaces look lifeless.
I think partly the images, and partly what I'd expect of the finish on a 1921. They are not known for "regular" Morgan luster; a lustrous 1921 Morgan is not as scarce as a lustrous Peace dollar but certainly other than normal. All the same, the images do present the precise appearance of an overdipped coin. |
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Hi SsuperDdave,
They are not die cracks, i.e they are not raised lines. Maybe I had used the wrong words, it should be broken lines on the coins. I think it's not the problem of dies.
The dark places above the eagle I also think it was dipped into some types of liquid, but I don't think such could cause those broken lines.
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OK, then I am comfortable with the authenticity of your coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm not seeing any obvious red flags and the reeding looks at about the right ratio (which is probably the most *consistent* thing counterfeiters botch). 1921 Morgans are simply odd creatures compared to other Morgan dollars, and the damage doesn't help. :-) Despite the fact that I haven't been able to examine is in-hand, I'd say it's very unlikely a fake. Edited by SteveCaruso
12/30/2014 09:32 am
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United States
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In view of Steve's comment about the denticles: it bears mentioning that macro photography alters perspective to a much shorter scale. You can see this, for instance, in a group of two or three coins imaged at once where one coin appears smaller than the others. We've seen it before here. It also manifests in what appear to be denticle differences - on this coin, the setup camera-coin is just slightly offset towards the bottom and as a result you can see slight differences in the denticles top to bottom.
This is an optical illusion, and you can expect - in this case - for the lower denticles to represent the actual look, which is correct for a genuine coin. Just another illustration of the fact that evaluating coins and evaluating coin images are separate skills.
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Pillar of the Community
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If the weight, diameter and thickness are correct, then it should be silver. Doesn't seem like it would make sense to counterfeit in silver, especially for an extremely common date.
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So I think the pc is OK. But as I see fake silver coins made-in-China everywhere around, it'best to be cautious to any single one whether it's the most common.
I am afraid it will come to base metal coins when they are faked. One of my collecting friends visited China and said there are fake Chinese 1 yuan, i.e US$ 0.16.
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but I don't know what they changed I can hardly look at a 1921 because I can't stand the changes they made. I was OK with them until I realized that her chin is much more pointy and prominent, her hair kinda looks like noodles, and the eagle's breast feathers are all off.  I just don't like 'em. |
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 IMO, Morgan dollar production ended in 1904. The 1921 is a bad rendition of the original design. Edited by DoubleEagle20
01/03/2015 9:42 pm
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Counterfeiters in China had better be careful on counterfeiting renminbi, Vietnam. The punishment in China for counterfeiting actual renminbi has to be perilously close to the death penalty.
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