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1922 Plain Lincoln Cent?

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 Posted 09/16/2007  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list
Its definately a 24. Stay away from this one.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bryanb1 to your friends list
Never buy key or semi-key coins unseen, especially off of ebay. We had Brian Fanton come to our coin club meeting last week to give a talk on Counterfeit Detection--he specifically spoke about the 22 D.

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 Posted 09/16/2007  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
As with most ebay pictures, it's impossible to tell. The last 2 on the plain is typically weak, you can barely see it on mine, in fact, you have to tilt the coin just right to make it out. That and it's a crappy looking 2. I'd certainly ask for a better picture before bidding.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
Looks completely fake to me. Frankly I would stay away from anything not certified by one of the big four.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I cropped the date and boosted the contrast a little. I wasn't able to blow it up as large as I would have liked, but this definitely looks like a 1924.

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 Posted 09/16/2007  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list
I emailed the seller and here is the response I got..

"Anyone who knows coins could look at that image -- never even having to look at the date -- and know it was die #1 1922 cent. Even the distorted second 2 is normal. No other Lincoln has those die characteristics of any date. And by the way, the 4 in a 1924 cent of any mint is CLOSED not open."

I guess the seller is just blind. I asked if they used a magnifing glass to look at it.
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 Posted 09/16/2007  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list
Ok, Going against the grain here. I do believe that the coin in question is a 22 Die 1.

Reason:

The phantom 4 that we see in the blowups. Its in the wrong position and tilted.

There are 3 die pairs attributed to the 1922. They are as follows.

Die Pair #1: Weak Reverse
Second 2 in date is weaker than the first 2.
First T in TRUST is smaller and more distinct
than the other letters.
WE is very mushy.
Reverse is very weak, usually with no lines in the wheat ears.

Die Pair #2: Strong Reverse
Second 2 in date is sharper than the first 2.
All letters in TRUST are sharp.
WE is only slightly mushy.
L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim.
Reverse is sharp.

Die pair #3: Weak Reverse
Second 2 in date is weaker than first 2.
TRUST is weak but sharper than IN GOD WE.
L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim.
Reverse is weak -- lower left part of O in ONE begins to
spread into the field as the die deteriotates.


Thus my opinion. I say Die Pair #1.

Now, would I be sure enough of my opinion to bid on this coin? Pass...
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 Posted 09/17/2007  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list
Well, I held off bidding, based on responses here & it sold for $129.50. A great price - if it's real.
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 Posted 09/17/2007  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
True a great price if real. However, the first thing I would have done with it would be to send it in for authenticating. If it came back as not a 22Plain, I would be out even more money. Just not worth the risk with ebay.
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 Posted 09/18/2007  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
Punt.
If it were ligit would they let it go for that price?
I know that I wouldn't.
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 Posted 09/18/2007  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
it is with out a doubt a 1924
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 Posted 09/18/2007  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
Jamez:
I agree on Die pair #1.
But then, again, perhaps not.
still a punt.
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 Posted 09/18/2007  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
I emailed the seller as well.
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 Posted 09/18/2007  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rigoletto to your friends list
A hunk of garbage if you ask me.
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 Posted 09/19/2007  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinWriter to your friends list
I looked at some images of 1924 cents. the crossbar of the "4" on a 24 cent is higher than the base of the adjacent "2". I think Jamez nailed it. But I wouldn't want to invest in a coin where the most important digit of the date is as problematic as this one. Some good deals just aren't.
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