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I'm curious as to what that mark is on the reverse of Coin A, otherwise I would give it a higher grade.
Coin A: MS-64
Coin B: MS-66
Coin C: MS-65
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A - MS64+ B - MS66 C - MS65+ Super eye appeal on those toners.  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I'm curious as to what that mark is on the reverse of Coin A The apparent mark is only a difference in toning. I don't know why this occurred, but it is not any kind of scratch or damage. |
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Beautiful coins. I would go MS 63,64 and 65. Why all the 1858's? Not exactly an inexpensive coin in these grades.
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3 beautiful little fish scales.  Teaching moment. Smaller US issues are graded according to what seem harsher standards than larger issues because individual marks are more prominent on a small coin. You will see this consistently in 3 Cent, Half Dime and Dime issues. The problem is exacerbated by toning, which makes accurate grading very difficult. A toner should be studied under bright light, and a single set of images designed to show a toner in its' best light can only be an approximate source for grading. With all that said.... Coin A) Love the subtle color. Big mark across the star pointing at the F in OF, and a lot of little skritches in the fields. The reverse is typically pristine; this is an issue (like Morgans) where one rarely gleans significant grading data from the reverse. I have it at 62. Coin B) Whoa. Color. Almost impossible to grade as a result, 64-ish. Coin C) Same objections as B. I have the impression of a "busier" coin than B, and have it 63-ish. The last two are essentially guesses. |
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1: MS-64 2: MS-66 3: MS-65 I have no experience with 3 cents so I'm taking a shot in the dark here. Maybe I'll get a hit!  |
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Why all the 1858's? Much of my coin collection comes down through the family from my grandfather. He died in 1963 and the collection was put into storage. In the collection, one manila 2x2 envelope contained four 1858 3 cents, including these three. The coins all sat together in this envelope for over 50 years, and I suspect that is the source of the toning. Overall, what came through the collection is rather odd. Sometimes there are multiples of some valuable coin, but other coins are almost absent. For example, I do not have a nice Flying Eagle cent (but looking). Ssuperdave, Thanks for the feedback. The line on the Obverse of coin A is also a toning streak similar to the one on the reverse and is also not a scratch. |
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Susuman, thanks for the info. That is awesome your grandfather was a collector. My grandparents saved some silver coins basically with little numismatic value. However I did get my grandfathers first silver dollar from his first paycheck at his first job out of college in the mid 30's.
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Ok, here are the grades that PCGS gave them and my thoughts.
Coin A - MS-65
Coin B - MS-65+
Coin C - MS-64
Interestingly, almost everyone here had Coin A as the lowest grade. In hand, it is actually the prettiest and it really sparkles. When I sent coins B and C in, I was actually expecting MS-64 and MS-63 respectively, mostly because the toning makes them somewhat dark. In hand, they are a little darker than they appear in the photos. Coin A does appear to have more small hits in the fields then the other coins. Incidentally, the grade on the fourth PCGS graded coin is MS-64 and looks mid way between coins B and C. I will post a few other recent grades.
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A)64
B)All the tea in China
C)62
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1st- MS63+ 2nd- MS65 3rd- MS64+ |
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Ssuperdave, Thanks for the feedback. The line on the Obverse of coin A is also a toning streak similar to the one on the reverse and is also not a scratch OK, I thought I could see metal displacement on the horizontal part of the star outline. If that's not so, I agree with the grade and consider it the nicest of the bunch, even though I'd gladly own them all.  Sounds to me like your grandfather collected stuff he liked the look of, rather than to plan. All I got for that is . He was good at it. |
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Those are amazing! Ive been trying to grab a nicely toned 1860 3CS for a while but finding the look and grade that I want is proving to be tough. I grade 65, 65+ and 64+.
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