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Goldmine Of Errors Hiding In Old Press

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 Posted 02/07/2015  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wazzappenning to your friends list
i wonder how much the press cost at auction or to him if he was second owner after auction? also really confused why the $880 bolt from germany that should have been a sinch to fab at a local machine shop for less I'msure.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aswag to your friends list
Thanks for sharing! Very interesting.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
Very interesting story, they seem to have some nice designs in their shop as well, or at least good photography.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
great story, very interesting reading and to find out how sloppy the Gov works and keeps records.
to make that bolt in a shop? cheaper to buy it as the shop does not have the exact properties of the bolt.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
The cost of the bolt is not really important, it has to be the right part no other will do. The press is capable of 400 tons pressure it better be the right bolt, and that machine makes nothing but money in more ways than one..lol
The reason it looked bigger from other Denver mint pictures is it had a sound enclosure around it but that part didn't come with it and was long gone.
Funny on the chart in the pic in the top right corner it says "Please destroy old charts"
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 Posted 02/07/2015  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denny7000 to your friends list
You can buy machines to make money? Where? Very cool story, thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
It seems surprising that you could buy something like that at auction, with modern CAM programs and high res scans, I wonder how difficult it would be to re-engineer a few dies and start making coins. On a US quarter, it is about 15% metal costs + premium for cost of blank. Buy a coin operated business, roll the new ones in with the ones collected and take them to the bank.

At 10k coins/hour, it would add up quick.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list
And by CAM, I mean Computer Aided Machining, not the auto-tagged reference
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 Posted 02/07/2015  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Thanks Pennyman-
It is a great story.
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 Posted 02/07/2015  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list
wow that is cool~ thanks for sharing~
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 Posted 02/07/2015  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
I hadn't seen this before thanks for sharing.

Nothing surprises me with the US government. For a period of time it was possible to buy totally effaced State Quarter dies from the mint until they realized that it might not be a good idea to let something that valuable be out there.

-MV
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 Posted 02/07/2015  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
I have seen this before, but it has been a while...thanks for the revisit!
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 Posted 02/08/2015  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Thanks for all the comments except I dont know what 'faints' means..lol
Kind of amazing being an older press yet capable of pumping out about 2.5 coins per second.
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 Posted 02/08/2015  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wazzappenning to your friends list
machinists would remake a bolt to exact same diameter and threads per inch etc. as for the function of the bolt, I believe it said it was an adjustment bolt which doesn't sound like it needs to be able to withstand pressures, but a machinist also looks at what the function of a part is and determines what material/strength is required. I can almost guarantee it would have worked.

the only reason I could think of was that he wanted to keep it original, but the bolt was fabbed in germany, not remaining original stock, and he added/modded many other parts anyways.

but yes thank you for the interesting read. I wonder where/if all the medallions were sold.
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 Posted 02/08/2015  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve123 to your friends list
Fantastic story! Thanks for sharing!




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