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CSA = Confederate States of America
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are you sure they have to be blank? the 1864 $50 has some print on the back
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thanks space for the clarification. What's the best way to tell fakes?
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United States
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If you have a specific note that you want to check out then I would look up some references online or in a CSA book to find out specific info on a note as to if it has a blank back or not. You can also find nice pictures of authentic notes to see what both sides look like (and you can look up of some fakes to help judge against) to get a better idea. Some notes will have COPY or REPRODUCTION printed on them somewhere on an edge or corner. On many notes it can be difficult to judge authenticity, having it in hand can really help.
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Great thanks. This forum is great for that too.
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Seeing many different notes with various stages of wear can eventually get you to the point where you feel more comfortable. Buying and trading with a reputable business or person is a huge benefit if you are not sure when it comes to judging these notes. A good knowledgeable person you can trust will help you with grade, authenticity, value, etc...
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Interesting thread.
Edited by Larryh86GT
02/14/2015 4:22 pm
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Crutchfield Currency has a bogus notes list on its website that covers CSA and several obsolete types.
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I've read there are 72 types of CSA notes and almost 600 varieties by one person's cataloging. There may be more, I haven't really studied them that much. However, about 6 months ago now I had an opportunity to acquire a few (worn) examples, which I ultimately passed on, but I found Don Kelly's site really useful, with good photos and valuations (or at least what he's hoping to get for them): http://www.donckelly.com/confederat...ederate.html |
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I have bought a few CSA notes, silver certificates, and older large size notes from Don C. Kelly and I have nothing but good things to say about him and his website. Nice photos, great variety, and fair prices among other plusses.
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I had a wad of confederate money as a kid since my relatives lived in Georgia during the war of Northern Aggression. I don't know what happened to those bills. What might they be worth today? They were a bad joke to my grandmother's generation.
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Most reproductions out there are copies of copies of copies of examples held in various museums and public collections; as such, only a small selection of possible serial numbers have been replicated. Therefore, the easiest way to determine if your note is a repro is to look it up on one of various websites that list serial numbers of fake notes - I think the Crutchfields Currency list has been up ever since there was an Internet - and look to see if your serial numbers are listed there. In the case of the OP's notes, The $50 1861 #31351, $50 1864 #59204 and $1000 #176 are all on the list. So they're all confirmed bogus. There are other ways; comparing the ink on the signatures with the ink on the rest of the note, for instance; 19th century pen ink contained iron oxide and stains differently to the carbon-black printer's ink the note would have been printed with. They should not look the same shade of black; the signatures should be brownish, and often it has stained through to the other side of the note. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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For a comparison, here's my Confederate States $5, which I paid quite a bit more than $5 for from an American dealer some years ago:   Serial number is 60685, which isn't listed, so it's got the all clear there. Also note the different colour the pen-ink of the serial number and signatures. The ink has also gone through to the back slightly, but you can't see it in the heightened contrast I used for those scans. It should also be pointed out that there's nothing stopping a replica-maker from obtaining a new, never-seen-before note and making copies of that one. So it's always worth occasionally re-checking these bogus note lists to see if yours has recently been added. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Edited by hajduk
03/13/2015 11:18 am
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I especially like the notes with the interest redeemed stamps on them.
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